health care on the trail

Drybones · Dec 11th 2013, 8:02am

Anyone out there got your Obamacare yet?

TrainWreck · Dec 11th 2013, 8:06am

Socks · Dec 11th 2013, 8:08am

Drybones wrote:

Anyone out there got your Obamacare yet?

I have my own policy so haven't had to attempt a log on yet, plus I don't want to be counted as seeking info and added to the false number of hits to be constude as needing. They should just start over.

Drybones · Dec 11th 2013, 8:09am

TrainWreck wrote:

If it were only that good....you can at least fish with that.

Socks · Dec 11th 2013, 8:09am

TrainWreck wrote:

you playin hooky and goin fishin?

Drybones · Dec 11th 2013, 8:11am

rocksNsocks wrote:

Drybones wrote:

Anyone out there got your Obamacare yet?

I have my own policy so haven't had to attempt a log on yet, plus I don't want to be counted as seeking info and added to the false number of hits to be constude as needing. They should just start over.

They will start over, but not until the health care industry has been destoyed.

milkman · Dec 11th 2013, 8:11am

Application was accepted on Oct. 26th. Called 3 weeks later and was told they we're sorry but they had a few glitches in the system and my acceptance letter was lost they had no record of it. This was the online application. Filled out telephone app. and was accepted.Call two weeks ago and they said keep checking the mail would be contacted soon. Closer to 3 weeks now.

hikerboy · Dec 11th 2013, 8:13am

why dont we just all agree its a flawed plan and move on..
i really dont want to start any political threads. its counterproductive. politics comes up in a conversation, thats fine, but pleae dont initiate political discussions unless it relates directly to hiking or the trail.

Drybones · Dec 11th 2013, 8:16am

milkman wrote:

Application was accepted on Oct. 26th. Called 3 weeks later and was told they we're sorry but they had a few glitches in the system and my acceptance letter was lost they had no record of it. This was the online application. Filled out telephone app. and was accepted.Call two weeks ago and they said keep checking the mail would be contacted soon. Closer to 3 weeks now.

I think the plan is to control cost by making the process so stressful that many will have a stroke and die.

Drybones · Dec 11th 2013, 8:18am

hikerboy wrote:

why dont we just all agree its a flawed plan and move on..
i really dont want to start any political threads. its counterproductive. politics comes up in a conversation, thats fine, but pleae dont initiate political discussions unless it relates directly to hiking or the trail.

I may get injured and need medical attention on my hike...what am I supposed to do?

hikerboy · Dec 11th 2013, 8:20am

Drybones wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

why dont we just all agree its a flawed plan and move on..
i really dont want to start any political threads. its counterproductive. politics comes up in a conversation, thats fine, but pleae dont initiate political discussions unless it relates directly to hiking or the trail.

I may get injured and need medical attention on my hike...what am I supposed to do?

simple, as mr romney would say dont get hurt.
obamacare is only temporary until hillarycare replaces it.

TrainWreck · Dec 11th 2013, 8:20am

Drybones wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

why dont we just all agree its a flawed plan and move on..
i really dont want to start any political threads. its counterproductive. politics comes up in a conversation, thats fine, but pleae dont initiate political discussions unless it relates directly to hiking or the trail.

I may get injured and need medical attention on my hike...what am I supposed to do?

Holler for a trail angel!

hikerboy · Dec 11th 2013, 8:22am

Drybones wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

why dont we just all agree its a flawed plan and move on..
i really dont want to start any political threads. its counterproductive. politics comes up in a conversation, thats fine, but pleae dont initiate political discussions unless it relates directly to hiking or the trail.

I may get injured and need medical attention on my hike...what am I supposed to do?

then ask the question, how do you intend to handle health insurance on the trail?

Drybones · Dec 11th 2013, 8:23am

TrainWreck wrote:

Drybones wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

why dont we just all agree its a flawed plan and move on..
i really dont want to start any political threads. its counterproductive. politics comes up in a conversation, thats fine, but pleae dont initiate political discussions unless it relates directly to hiking or the trail.

I may get injured and need medical attention on my hike...what am I supposed to do?

Holler for a trail angel!

LW might hear me and come shoot the trail angel and me.

TrainWreck · Dec 11th 2013, 8:25am

Drybones wrote:

TrainWreck wrote:

Drybones wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

why dont we just all agree its a flawed plan and move on..
i really dont want to start any political threads. its counterproductive. politics comes up in a conversation, thats fine, but pleae dont initiate political discussions unless it relates directly to hiking or the trail.

I may get injured and need medical attention on my hike...what am I supposed to do?

Holler for a trail angel!

LW might hear me and come shoot the trail angel and me.

You're still ok. He'd then whisk you away in his ambulance to the nearest ER.

Drybones · Dec 11th 2013, 8:31am

TrainWreck wrote:

Drybones wrote:

TrainWreck wrote:

Drybones wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

why dont we just all agree its a flawed plan and move on..
i really dont want to start any political threads. its counterproductive. politics comes up in a conversation, thats fine, but pleae dont initiate political discussions unless it relates directly to hiking or the trail.

I may get injured and need medical attention on my hike...what am I supposed to do?

Holler for a trail angel!

LW might hear me and come shoot the trail angel and me.

You're still ok. He'd then whisk you away in his ambulance to the nearest ER.

He is such an angel!......i'd prefer Charlie send one of his tho.

Socks · Dec 11th 2013, 8:32am

TrainWreck wrote:

Drybones wrote:

TrainWreck wrote:

Drybones wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

why dont we just all agree its a flawed plan and move on..
i really dont want to start any political threads. its counterproductive. politics comes up in a conversation, thats fine, but pleae dont initiate political discussions unless it relates directly to hiking or the trail.

I may get injured and need medical attention on my hike...what am I supposed to do?

Holler for a trail angel!

LW might hear me and come shoot the trail angel and me.

You're still ok. He'd then whisk you away in his ambulance to the nearest ER.

then get ya drunk...good guy!

Drybones · Dec 11th 2013, 8:34am

I'm still laughing at the title change....do I have the honor of being the first moderated member? You guys should make me a plaque or something.

CoachLou · Dec 11th 2013, 8:38am

Did I tell you guys about my new sticks? Oh wait, I did, didn't I. Well I really like them, even though they are red....I wish they were green!

TrainWreck · Dec 11th 2013, 8:40am

CoachLou wrote:

Did I tell you guys about my new sticks? Oh wait, I did, didn't I. Well I really like them, even though they are red....I wish they were green!

I thought you were going to scrape that sticker off.

hikerboy · Dec 11th 2013, 8:41am

Drybones wrote:

I'm still laughing at the title change....do I have the honor of being the first moderated member? You guys should make me a plaque or something.

we didnt start the site to initiate political rants.they are divisive, and the site intends to be inclusive.
its a legitimate conversation.just needed a non political title

Socks · Dec 11th 2013, 8:45am

Drybones wrote:

I'm still laughing at the title change....do I have the honor of being the first moderated member? You guys should make me a plaque or something.

Sorry dude, that distinguished position is held by another.

milkman · Dec 11th 2013, 8:48am

Drybones wrote:

I'm still laughing at the title change....do I have the honor of being the first moderated member? You guys should make me a plaque or something.

Drybones · Dec 11th 2013, 8:52am

hikerboy wrote:

Drybones wrote:

I'm still laughing at the title change....do I have the honor of being the first moderated member? You guys should make me a plaque or something.

we didnt start the site to initiate political rants.they are divisive, and the site intends to be inclusive.
its a legitimate conversation.just needed a non political title

Us kids have to figure out where the lines are. Any other taboo topics?

Drybones · Dec 11th 2013, 8:53am

milkman wrote:

Drybones wrote:

I'm still laughing at the title change....do I have the honor of being the first moderated member? You guys should make me a plaque or something.

Thanks Bro.....I am soooooo honored. Shall I give my acceptance speach now?

Socks · Dec 11th 2013, 8:54am

Drybones wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

Drybones wrote:

I'm still laughing at the title change....do I have the honor of being the first moderated member? You guys should make me a plaque or something.

we didnt start the site to initiate political rants.they are divisive, and the site intends to be inclusive.
its a legitimate conversation.just needed a non political title

Us kids have to figure out where the lines are. Any other taboo topics?

can you bake?

TrainWreck · Dec 11th 2013, 8:55am

Actually, this is a pretty interesting point to ponder. A hiker who is injured badly enough where he has to obtain medical attention on the spot may end up paying for the whole thing out of pocket, even if he's insured, because of the countless variations in plans, acceptance of coverage, deductibles, participating physicians, etc. Something new to consider when calculating the cost of a thru hike.

milkman · Dec 11th 2013, 8:55am

Drybones wrote:

milkman wrote:

Drybones wrote:

I'm still laughing at the title change....do I have the honor of being the first moderated member? You guys should make me a plaque or something.

Thanks Bro.....I am soooooo honored. Shall I give my acceptance speach now?

Just taking a bow (wow) will suffice.

milkman · Dec 11th 2013, 8:57am

TrainWreck wrote:

Actually, this is a pretty interesting point to ponder. A hiker who is injured badly enough where he has to obtain medical attention on the spot may end up paying for the whole thing out of pocket, even if he's insured, because of the countless variations in plans, acceptance of coverage, deductibles, participating physicians, etc. Something new to consider when calculating the cost of a thru hike.

Exactly. My new deductible and new out of pocket is like not having any insurance at all.

Drybones · Dec 11th 2013, 8:59am

TrainWreck wrote:

Actually, this is a pretty interesting point to ponder. A hiker who is injured badly enough where he has to obtain medical attention on the spot may end up paying for the whole thing out of pocket, even if he's insured, because of the countless variations in plans, acceptance of coverage, deductibles, participating physicians, etc. Something new to consider when calculating the cost of a thru hike.

I was thinking the same as I listened to the latest developments last night, not just hiking but any travel.

hikerboy · Dec 11th 2013, 8:59am

Drybones wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

Drybones wrote:

I'm still laughing at the title change....do I have the honor of being the first moderated member? You guys should make me a plaque or something.

we didnt start the site to initiate political rants.they are divisive, and the site intends to be inclusive.
its a legitimate conversation.just needed a non political title

Us kids have to figure out where the lines are. Any other taboo topics?

there really arent any taboo topics.but for us to keep moderation out of our forums, people need to exercise some self restraint. we;re a hiking site, and a hiking community. the conversations should be somewhat related to that. there are plenty of other forums where you can talk politics all day long. one thing i like about the trail is i dont have to deal with peoples political bullshit.our government has divided us with social issues that have nothing to do with governing. we dont have to help them. if you want to initiate a political discussion, let it be about finding solutions, rather than just blind criticism. its good to encourage thinking, i do it all the time. but be respectful of your other family members here, and help us make the site helpful to newbies.
thats all i ask..

Socks · Dec 11th 2013, 9:03am

milkman wrote:

TrainWreck wrote:

Actually, this is a pretty interesting point to ponder. A hiker who is injured badly enough where he has to obtain medical attention on the spot may end up paying for the whole thing out of pocket, even if he's insured, because of the countless variations in plans, acceptance of coverage, deductibles, participating physicians, etc. Something new to consider when calculating the cost of a thru hike.

Exactly. My new deductible and new out of pocket is like not having any insurance at all.

now not trying to be political here, but this is exactly one of the biggest problem I see with the plan, it doesn't help the people it was meant to help...If I could afford that, I'd just pay outta pocket in the first place...so basically it'a a catastrophic plan.

milkman · Dec 11th 2013, 9:05am

That world-wide rescue insurance (maybe somebody can put the link in here) might be something to look into. That would get you off the trail. But then the hospital would be another story.

milkman · Dec 11th 2013, 9:08am

rocksNsocks wrote:

Exactly. My new deductible and new out of pocket is like not having any insurance at all.

now not trying to be political here, but this is exactly one of the biggest problem I see with the plan, it doesn't help the people it was meant to help...If I could afford that, I'd just pay outta pocket in the first place...so basically it'a a catastrophic plan.[/quote]
That's all my policy is.

Drybones · Dec 11th 2013, 9:15am

hikerboy wrote:

Drybones wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

Drybones wrote:

I'm still laughing at the title change....do I have the honor of being the first moderated member? You guys should make me a plaque or something.

we didnt start the site to initiate political rants.they are divisive, and the site intends to be inclusive.
its a legitimate conversation.just needed a non political title

be respectful of your other family members here, and help us make the site helpful to newbies.
thats all i ask..

I've wondered what the intent of the site was, to be a small group or to grow? I speak fluent French, but it's a secondary language, and this may be hypocrical, but IMO, half the visitors will be offended and not return if they see a lot of posts with "fuck" in every sentence. A little French here and there may not bother them but if it becomes too trashy they wont return, IMO.

Socks · Dec 11th 2013, 9:16am

I just don't get that they don't get that in it's current state, many people can't afford it, most retirees are on fixed incomes, and most will require meds as they age...food too. Something has to give. In my best thinking, it should be revamped...just start over and get it right. anything short of that is just not good enough for the best Country in the world.

Socks · Dec 11th 2013, 9:19am

milkman wrote:

rocksNsocks wrote:

Exactly. My new deductible and new out of pocket is like not having any insurance at all.

That's all my policy is.

rocksNsocks wrote
now not trying to be political here, but this is exactly one of the biggest problem I see with the plan, it doesn't help the people it was meant to help...If I could afford that, I'd just pay outta pocket in the first place...so basically it'a a catastrophic plan.

hikerboy · Dec 11th 2013, 9:22am

Drybones wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

Drybones wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

Drybones wrote:

I'm still laughing at the title change....do I have the honor of being the first moderated member? You guys should make me a plaque or something.

we didnt start the site to initiate political rants.they are divisive, and the site intends to be inclusive.
its a legitimate conversation.just needed a non political title

be respectful of your other family members here, and help us make the site helpful to newbies.
thats all i ask..

I've wondered what the intent of the site was, to be a small group or to grow? I speak fluent French, but it's a secondary language, and this may be hypocrical, but IMO, half the visitors will be offended and not return if they see a lot of posts with "fuck" in every sentence. A little French here and there may not bother them but if it becomes too trashy they wont return, IMO.

moderation in everything leads to less moderation here. that being said, fuck em.its not a new word.

hikerboy · Dec 11th 2013, 9:26am

rocksNsocks wrote:

I just don't get that they don't get that in it's current state, many people can't afford it, most retirees are on fixed incomes, and most will require meds as they age...food too. Something has to give. In my best thinking, it should be revamped...just start over and get it right. anything short of that is just not good enough for the best Country in the world.

i agree its a terrible plan and should be repealed.universal health care can work, but not until the sytemwide abuses and fraud, as well as caps on prescription drug costs, dropping the ban on cheaper canadian versions of the same drug from the same company.prescription drug advertising should be banned. i shouldnt need to ask my doctor if a drug is right for me. he should already know

CoachLou · Dec 11th 2013, 9:27am

TrainWreck wrote:

CoachLou wrote:

Did I tell you guys about my new sticks? Oh wait, I did, didn't I. Well I really like them, even though they are red....I wish they were green!

I thought you were going to scrape that sticker off.

I forgot, I've been so busy being a Poho again, and the weather.......It'll get done today!

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