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The Mini most often, but I like to use Aqua Mira at least every couple of days because it lets me have residual chorine in the water to control biofilm growth in my containers.I'm not lost. I know where I am. I'm right here.
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Yeah, you and Sarge talked me out of filtering water and I ended up where the only water supply on the section ran from downhill past the shelter latrine. I suppose what doesn't kill you gives you Hep-C.
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Really depends on the trip. I figure most of AT is pretty safe but always have some Iodine Tablets with me or recently a Sawer Mini. I almost always have a map of the area I hike in. If I'm high on a ridge most likely safe. Low vallies where I cn't tell what is in the draineage system I think twice & maybe treat. mostly using common sense. Out west, lots of trails go through cattle country. When you watch cattle piss & crap in the only water source in 15 or more miles around the weight of a good filter along with a backup option isn't much of a concern.
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I answered to the poll that I do not treat, which is true 90% of the time, I carry a very small Clear Eyes container of bleach, if it is questionable I put one drop of bleach per cup of water, BTW, I treat city water, Franklin, NC had the most questionable water I've found on the trail...and I don't drink the water in my house even if it's filtered, IMO, mountain stream water is safer than any city water.I may grow old but I'll never grow up.
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Mountain-Mike wrote:
Really depends on the trip. I figure most of AT is pretty safe but always have some Iodine Tablets with me or recently a Sawer Mini. I almost always have a map of the area I hike in. If I'm high on a ridge most likely safe. Low vallies where I cn't tell what is in the draineage system I think twice & maybe treat. mostly using common sense. Out west, lots of trails go through cattle country. When you watch cattle piss & crap in the only water source in 15 or more miles around the weight of a good filter along with a backup option isn't much of a concern.
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AnotherKevin wrote:
Mountain-Mike wrote:
Really depends on the trip. I figure most of AT is pretty safe but always have some Iodine Tablets with me or recently a Sawer Mini. I almost always have a map of the area I hike in. If I'm high on a ridge most likely safe. Low vallies where I cn't tell what is in the draineage system I think twice & maybe treat. mostly using common sense. Out west, lots of trails go through cattle country. When you watch cattle piss & crap in the only water source in 15 or more miles around the weight of a good filter along with a backup option isn't much of a concern.
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Da Wolf wrote:
never filtered or treated water
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AnotherKevin wrote:
Beaver fever is no fun.
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grayblazer wrote:
AnotherKevin wrote:
Beaver fever is no fun.
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Regarding Wolf's habits in this regard... no, I can't do that either, but according to the best statistics that I've seen, he's right.
I'm certain he's right about this much: a lot of illnesses seen on hikes come from poor hygiene and from careless food sharing. Not all of it comes from the water. There's just nothing much that's provable with regard to the efficacy of various water treatment systems.
I've had exactly one serious bout of the runs that almost certainly came from untreated pond water. I lost about 10 pounds before it was all over. Before then I never treated water. After that, I always did. -
socks wrote:
grayblazer wrote:
AnotherKevin wrote:
Beaver fever is no fun.
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rafe wrote:
There's just nothing much that's provable with regard to the efficacy of various water treatment systems.
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Boy it's nice to have Astro back!
I used a new system with my Sawyer Mini this week. Worked pretty well. I got the AGG sil nylon water bag:
antigravitygear.com/shop/hydra…ygear-1-gallon-water-bag/
I then attached a quick disconnect socket fitting to the bottom of the bag:
shop.linktechcouplings.com/Panel-Mount-PTF-Socket_c107.htm
This fitting has to be valved so it holds water when disconnected.
A plug connector with a hose fitting allowed me to connect the filter.
shop.linktechcouplings.com/In-Line-Hose-Barb-Plug_c188.htm
Water drained into an Evernew bladder with the Sawyer adaptor:
sawyer.com/products/sawyer-inline-hydration-pack-adapters/
I just used the drinking tube that came with the filter for the hoses. It was a short gravity system so not real fast, but I would just do camp chores while one bladder filled and then come around later to swap for an empty one. I cut a few feet of cord of my bear bag line to hang the water bag from a tree. I had hoped I could use the string to just cast the bag into the lake/stream to fill it, but that didn't work so well (could only get it half filled that way). I eventually used a cut-off water bottle to fill the bag. But it was nice to be able to carry a gallon of water back from the lake and filter in camp. I was filtering for two people so having that extra capacity was useful. The bag did seem to leak a bit maybe due to the abrasion of dragging it on the bottom while trying to fill it, but the leak was not so fast that I couldn't filter the water. Also, it helped to suck on the outlet hose to get the air out of the filter and start the water flowing. -
AnotherKevin wrote:
Beaver fever is no fun.
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For once I'd just like to hear myself say, "Great job, self! Why don't you just take the day off." -
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I didn't vote but on the AT IM and I mainly used Sawyer mini (IM rigged up a gravity feed system which was bloody useful-like having a tap) and backed up with Aqua Mira drops. Here I don't treat water. Our huts all have rainwater tanks connected.Resident Australian, proving being a grumpy old man is not just an American trait.
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What has been seen, cannot be unseen.I'm not lost. I know where I am. I'm right here.
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How about a Beaver-Bieber
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hikerboy wrote:
at 2.5 oz, a sawyer mini doesnt weigh much more than aquamira. i drink straight from the source most of the time, but there are times when i think the water's a bit dicey that i'll pull out the mini.
I read a story years ago a hker had written. He was thirsty, he finally came across a stream. Clear and cold. He drank his fill, it was wonderful. He turns and looks upstream and sees a dead deer in the water.
He looks first after that to make sure there is nothing rotting in the water. He also got a filter and water purification tablets.
So don't drink dead deer water !--
"What do you mean its sunrise already ?!", me. -
Protip: You can pre-filter out larger particles by filtering the water through your socks. As a bonus, doing this washes your socks.Dogs are excellent judges of character, this fact goes a long way toward explaining why some people don't like being around them.
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JimBlue wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
at 2.5 oz, a sawyer mini doesnt weigh much more than aquamira. i drink straight from the source most of the time, but there are times when i think the water's a bit dicey that i'll pull out the mini.
He looks first after that to make sure there is nothing rotting in the water. He also got a filter and water purification tablets.
So don't drink dead deer water !
Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
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rafe wrote:
I'm certain he's right about this much: a lot of illnesses seen on hikes come from poor hygiene and from careless food sharing. Not all of it comes from the water. There's just nothing much that's provable with regard to the efficacy of various water treatment systems.
Lest we forget.....
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SarcasmTheElf wrote:
Protip: You can pre-filter out larger particles by filtering the water through your socks. As a bonus, doing this washes your socks.
I don't think my socks can filter out a deer, dead or alive.--
"What do you mean its sunrise already ?!", me. -
hikerboy wrote:
at 2.5 oz, a sawyer mini doesnt weigh much more than aquamira. i drink straight from the source most of the time, but there are times when i think the water's a bit dicey that i'll pull out the mini.
Changes Daily→ ♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫ ♪♫♪♫♪♫ ← Don't blame me. It's That Lonesome Guitar. -
JimBlue wrote:
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
Protip: You can pre-filter out larger particles by filtering the water through your socks. As a bonus, doing this washes your socks.
I'm not lost. I know where I am. I'm right here. -
AnotherKevin wrote:
JimBlue wrote:
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
Protip: You can pre-filter out larger particles by filtering the water through your socks. As a bonus, doing this washes your socks.
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"What do you mean its sunrise already ?!", me. -
Dan76 wrote:
rafe wrote:
I'm certain he's right about this much: a lot of illnesses seen on hikes come from poor hygiene and from careless food sharing. Not all of it comes from the water. There's just nothing much that's provable with regard to the efficacy of various water treatment systems.
I may grow old but I'll never grow up. -
Drybones wrote:
Dan76 wrote:
rafe wrote:
I'm certain he's right about this much: a lot of illnesses seen on hikes come from poor hygiene and from careless food sharing. Not all of it comes from the water. There's just nothing much that's provable with regard to the efficacy of various water treatment systems.
Changes Daily→ ♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫ ♪♫♪♫♪♫ ← Don't blame me. It's That Lonesome Guitar. -
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