The serious ultra light beer thread

1azarus · Jan 10th 2014, 10:52am

so, imagine a group of hikers was planning to get together (sometime soon), and someone wanted to bring beer. what is the lightest 6 pack of beer? my guess is that the weight of the beer is fixed, but the weight of the aluminum can is variable. Related questions: is it appropriate to card hikers before offering an alcoholic beverage?, is it acceptable to only bring one beer per hiker?, and how long does it take to freeze beer at 22 degrees, when the beer starting temp is 50 degrees? Oh, and is it appropriate to make everyone keep their own empty, or should all the cans just go in the fire ring?

Rasty · Jan 10th 2014, 11:18am

Large cans like Fosters will be lighter % of aluminum per fluid ounce of beer. Beer weight could theoretically change based on the amount of CO2 which is lighter then water. NY requires ID for those that appear under 50 so card sarcasm.

1azarus · Jan 10th 2014, 11:50am

Rasty wrote:

Large cans like Fosters will be lighter % of aluminum per fluid ounce of beer. Beer weight could theoretically change based on the amount of CO2 which is lighter then water. NY requires ID for those that appear under 50 so card sarcasm.

so, fosters cans, but that means i have to pour the beer into hiker cups. otherwise i will have just increased the portion size, not reduced the total weight.

1azarus · Jan 10th 2014, 11:51am

oh, and thank you for your thoughtful reply to my serious query.

BirdBrain · Jan 10th 2014, 12:16pm

This may not seem like a serious reply, but it is. I quit drinking when I was 19. However, I faced a similar dilemma. I started drinking when I was 10 and soon learned it was difficult to hide large volumes on alcohol. Plus there were too many bathroom runs. I eventually settled on drinking the highest proof alcohol I could stomach straight. This ended up being Seagram's 7. The same could be said about beer. Being a gram weenie, I would be more concerned about percentage of alcohol in the can, than the weight of the can.

manmilk · Jan 10th 2014, 12:18pm

I'll bet it might be Coors. It's made with water from higher elevation. That water weighs less than water at sea level.

hikerboy · Jan 10th 2014, 12:23pm

for max benefit/weight, id go with bacardi 151. excellent firestarter as well.

BirdBrain · Jan 10th 2014, 12:29pm

hikerboy wrote:

for max benefit/weight, id go with bacardi 151. excellent firestarter as well.

Agreed. I was going to go straight there, but the other site has me gun shy. It would have drew a warning because he was asking about beer. I compared carrying bear spray to wearing a seatbelt. I have worn a seatbelt for decades and never "used" it. That was the post that I keep whining about that led me to leave. Gator said it was off topic because he didn't like the way I defined "use".

manmilk · Jan 10th 2014, 12:39pm

BirdBrain wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

for max benefit/weight, id go with bacardi 151. excellent firestarter as well.

Agreed. I was going to go straight there, but the other site has me gun shy. It would have drew a warning because he was asking about beer. I compared carrying bear spray to wearing a seatbelt. I have worn a seatbelt for decades and never "used" it. That was the post that I keep whining about that led me to leave. Gator said it was off topic because he didn't like the way I defined "use".

hikerboy · Jan 10th 2014, 12:40pm

manmilk wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

for max benefit/weight, id go with bacardi 151. excellent firestarter as well.

Agreed. I was going to go straight there, but the other site has me gun shy. It would have drew a warning because he was asking about beer. I compared carrying bear spray to wearing a seatbelt. I have worn a seatbelt for decades and never "used" it. That was the post that I keep whining about that led me to leave. Gator said it was off topic because he didn't like the way I defined "use".

must................obey....

BirdBrain · Jan 10th 2014, 12:45pm

hikerboy wrote:

manmilk wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

for max benefit/weight, id go with bacardi 151. excellent firestarter as well.

Agreed. I was going to go straight there, but the other site has me gun shy. It would have drew a warning because he was asking about beer. I compared carrying bear spray to wearing a seatbelt. I have worn a seatbelt for decades and never "used" it. That was the post that I keep whining about that led me to leave. Gator said it was off topic because he didn't like the way I defined "use".

must................obey....

All of a sudden I am in a forgiving spirit again.

BirdBrain · Jan 10th 2014, 12:48pm

I just noticed the rest of the original questions. You should card every drinker right after you confiscate all the left handed cigarettes you see on the trail. People don't seem to follow the rules on the trail, Bunch of rebels.

manmilk · Jan 10th 2014, 5:47pm

What about a beer canister? Or would that be too heavy?

Mountain-Mike · Jan 10th 2014, 9:38pm

1azarus wrote:

so, imagine a group of hikers was planning to get together (sometime soon), and someone wanted to bring beer. what is the lightest 6 pack of beer? my guess is that the weight of the beer is fixed, but the weight of the aluminum can is variable. Related questions: is it appropriate to card hikers before offering an alcoholic beverage?, is it acceptable to only bring one beer per hiker?, and how long does it take to freeze beer at 22 degrees, when the beer starting temp is 50 degrees? Oh, and is it appropriate to make everyone keep their own empty, or should all the cans just go in the fire ring?

See my thread on Grasshopper Desert. WOO posted on a way to make beer in backcountry with a concentrate.

hikerboy · Jan 10th 2014, 9:46pm

milkman wrote:

What about a beer canister? Or would that be too heavy?

oh just bring one of those mini kegs. whats that german or bavarian beer that comes in a small keg?

TrainWreck · Jan 10th 2014, 9:47pm

BirdBrain wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

for max benefit/weight, id go with bacardi 151. excellent firestarter as well.

Agreed. I was going to go straight there, but the other site has me gun shy. It would have drew a warning because he was asking about beer. I compared carrying bear spray to wearing a seatbelt. I have worn a seatbelt for decades and never "used" it. That was the post that I keep whining about that led me to leave. Gator said it was off topic because he didn't like the way I defined "use".

Huh?

methinks the reptile must have had a little something extra in his gatoraid that night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0

hikerboy · Jan 10th 2014, 10:12pm

what is is?is is as elusive as now, experiencing life in the moment.
is almost instantly dies as is becomes was ,as a new is is born.

hangin with pepe

Rasty · Jan 10th 2014, 10:26pm

hikerboy wrote:

what is is?is is as elusive as now, experiencing life in the moment.
is almost instantly dies as is becomes was ,as a new is is born.

hangin with pepe

I bet Hillary knows what is is!

BirdBrain · Jan 10th 2014, 10:32pm

Rasty wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

what is is?is is as elusive as now, experiencing life in the moment.
is almost instantly dies as is becomes was ,as a new is is born.

hangin with pepe

I bet Hillary knows what is is!

What difference does it make!
Hehehehehe

hikerboy · Jan 10th 2014, 10:34pm

Rasty wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

what is is?is is as elusive as now, experiencing life in the moment.
is almost instantly dies as is becomes was ,as a new is is born.

hangin with pepe

I bet Hillary knows what is is!

i believe manmilk was involved

BirdBrain · Jan 10th 2014, 10:38pm

hikerboy wrote:

Rasty wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

what is is?is is as elusive as now, experiencing life in the moment.
is almost instantly dies as is becomes was ,as a new is is born.

hangin with pepe

I bet Hillary knows what is is!

i believe manmilk was involved

Likely once. She probably has had sex with a man as often as Michael Jackson did with a woman.

TrainWreck · Jan 10th 2014, 10:58pm

BirdBrain wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

Rasty wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

what is is?is is as elusive as now, experiencing life in the moment.
is almost instantly dies as is becomes was ,as a new is is born.

hangin with pepe

I bet Hillary knows what is is!

i believe manmilk was involved

Likely once. She probably has had sex with a man as often as Michael Jackson did with a woman.

You're all being put on moderated status for talking all political and such!

1azarus · Jan 10th 2014, 11:45pm

Hmmm. I think the mini keg must be the winner at around fifteen pounds for thirteen twelve ounce drinks... I admit I just love the taste of beer and think it would be fun to toast a group of cafe-ers. (Is there an equivelant term to wb-ers?). Not sure if I can get psyched up to carry the darn thing. When empty, who do you think I can talk into using it as a bear canister?

OzJacko · Jan 10th 2014, 11:50pm

Beer is nice but to warm up I always like single malt scotch whiskey.
A quick slug puts fire in your belly.

BirdBrain · Jan 10th 2014, 11:59pm

TrainWreck wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

Rasty wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

what is is?is is as elusive as now, experiencing life in the moment.
is almost instantly dies as is becomes was ,as a new is is born.

hangin with pepe

I bet Hillary knows what is is!

i believe manmilk was involved

Likely once. She probably has had sex with a man as often as Michael Jackson did with a woman.

You're all being put on moderated status for talking all political and such!

I fully agree. You should be especially tough of the one that posted the Clinton video.

TrainWreck · Jan 11th 2014, 12:58am

BirdBrain wrote:

TrainWreck wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

Rasty wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

what is is?is is as elusive as now, experiencing life in the moment.
is almost instantly dies as is becomes was ,as a new is is born.

hangin with pepe

I bet Hillary knows what is is!

i believe manmilk was involved

Likely once. She probably has had sex with a man as often as Michael Jackson did with a woman.

You're all being put on moderated status for talking all political and such!

I fully agree. You should be especially tough of the one that posted the Clinton video.

That one gets the firing squad at dawn

milkman · Jan 11th 2014, 7:34am

TrainWreck wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

TrainWreck wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

Rasty wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

what is is?is is as elusive as now, experiencing life in the moment.
is almost instantly dies as is becomes was ,as a new is is born.

hangin with pepe

I bet Hillary knows what is is!

i believe manmilk was involved

Likely once. She probably has had sex with a man as often as Michael Jackson did with a woman.

You're all being put on moderated status for talking all political and such!

I fully agree. You should be especially tough of the one that posted the Clinton video.

That one gets the firing squad at dawn

I volunteer to be on the squad. Can I use a pea shooter.

TrainWreck · Jan 11th 2014, 4:22pm

milkman wrote:

TrainWreck wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

TrainWreck wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

Rasty wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

what is is?is is as elusive as now, experiencing life in the moment.
is almost instantly dies as is becomes was ,as a new is is born.

hangin with pepe

I bet Hillary knows what is is!

i believe manmilk was involved

Likely once. She probably has had sex with a man as often as Michael Jackson did with a woman.

You're all being put on moderated status for talking all political and such!

I fully agree. You should be especially tough of the one that posted the Clinton video.

That one gets the firing squad at dawn

I volunteer to be on the squad. Can I use a pea shooter.

rubber bands and spitballs are the weapons of choice

Rasty · Jan 11th 2014, 4:28pm

TrainWreck wrote:

milkman wrote:

TrainWreck wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

TrainWreck wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

Rasty wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

what is is?is is as elusive as now, experiencing life in the moment.
is almost instantly dies as is becomes was ,as a new is is born.

hangin with pepe

I bet Hillary knows what is is!

i believe manmilk was involved

Likely once. She probably has had sex with a man as often as Michael Jackson did with a woman.

You're all being put on moderated status for talking all political and such!

I fully agree. You should be especially tough of the one that posted the Clinton video.

That one gets the firing squad at dawn

I volunteer to be on the squad. Can I use a pea shooter.

rubber bands and spitballs are the weapons of choice

Red Rider BB guns are up there also

1azarus · Jan 11th 2014, 4:41pm

excuse me for posting on topic... just got back from doing some serious research at the Stoney Creek Brewing Company. Great tour and great bear. i mean beer. so i didn't post the weather forecast for the harriman hike on the harriman hike thread and the world did not end. go figure.

Rasty · Jan 11th 2014, 4:44pm

1azarus wrote:

excuse me for posting on topic... just got back from doing some serious research at the Stoney Creek Brewing Company. Great tour and great bear. i mean beer. so i didn't post the weather forecast for the harriman hike on the harriman hike thread and the world did not end. go figure.

Any results from this "research" to report?

hikerboy · Jan 11th 2014, 4:56pm

an ounce of herbs goes a long way

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Sarcasmtheelf · Jan 11th 2014, 5:10pm

milkman wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

for max benefit/weight, id go with bacardi 151. excellent firestarter as well.

Agreed. I was going to go straight there, but the other site has me gun shy. It would have drew a warning because he was asking about beer. I compared carrying bear spray to wearing a seatbelt. I have worn a seatbelt for decades and never "used" it. That was the post that I keep whining about that led me to leave. Gator said it was off topic because he didn't like the way I defined "use".

I doubt any of the WB mods look like her. :sick:

Sarcasmtheelf · Jan 11th 2014, 5:14pm

1azarus wrote:

so, imagine a group of hikers was planning to get together (sometime soon), and someone wanted to bring beer. what is the lightest 6 pack of beer? my guess is that the weight of the beer is fixed, but the weight of the aluminum can is variable. Related questions: is it appropriate to card hikers before offering an alcoholic beverage?, is it acceptable to only bring one beer per hiker?, and how long does it take to freeze beer at 22 degrees, when the beer starting temp is 50 degrees? Oh, and is it appropriate to make everyone keep their own empty, or should all the cans just go in the fire ring?

Serious answer. Beer is a lot like my cast iron skillet and my camp chair. It's one of the things I like when I'm car camping, but I don't bring them backpacking.

I rarely drink when I hike, but when I do it's a bit of good whisky, either straight, mixed with black coffee, or in the winter mixed with hot cherry jello (seriously)

TrainWreck · Jan 11th 2014, 5:29pm

SarcasmTheElf wrote:

milkman wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

for max benefit/weight, id go with bacardi 151. excellent firestarter as well.

Agreed. I was going to go straight there, but the other site has me gun shy. It would have drew a warning because he was asking about beer. I compared carrying bear spray to wearing a seatbelt. I have worn a seatbelt for decades and never "used" it. That was the post that I keep whining about that led me to leave. Gator said it was off topic because he didn't like the way I defined "use".

I doubt any of the WB mods look like her. :sick:

You don't know what they dress up in when they're off duty!!

BirdBrain · Jan 11th 2014, 5:34pm

TrainWreck wrote:

SarcasmTheElf wrote:

milkman wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

for max benefit/weight, id go with bacardi 151. excellent firestarter as well.

Agreed. I was going to go straight there, but the other site has me gun shy. It would have drew a warning because he was asking about beer. I compared carrying bear spray to wearing a seatbelt. I have worn a seatbelt for decades and never "used" it. That was the post that I keep whining about that led me to leave. Gator said it was off topic because he didn't like the way I defined "use".

I doubt any of the WB mods look like her. :sick:

You don't know what they dress up in when they're off duty!!

HB is walking. So I'll be HB.
hehehehe, you said duty, hehehehe.

TrainWreck · Jan 11th 2014, 6:25pm

BirdBrain wrote:

TrainWreck wrote:

SarcasmTheElf wrote:

milkman wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

for max benefit/weight, id go with bacardi 151. excellent firestarter as well.

Agreed. I was going to go straight there, but the other site has me gun shy. It would have drew a warning because he was asking about beer. I compared carrying bear spray to wearing a seatbelt. I have worn a seatbelt for decades and never "used" it. That was the post that I keep whining about that led me to leave. Gator said it was off topic because he didn't like the way I defined "use".

I doubt any of the WB mods look like her. :sick:

You don't know what they dress up in when they're off duty!!

HB is walking. So I'll be HB.
hehehehe, you said duty, hehehehe.

This conversation is full of duty :lol:

Mountain-Mike · Jan 11th 2014, 6:36pm

SarcasmTheElf wrote:

1azarus wrote:

so, imagine a group of hikers was planning to get together (sometime soon), and someone wanted to bring beer. what is the lightest 6 pack of beer? my guess is that the weight of the beer is fixed, but the weight of the aluminum can is variable. Related questions: is it appropriate to card hikers before offering an alcoholic beverage?, is it acceptable to only bring one beer per hiker?, and how long does it take to freeze beer at 22 degrees, when the beer starting temp is 50 degrees? Oh, and is it appropriate to make everyone keep their own empty, or should all the cans just go in the fire ring?

Serious answer. Beer is a lot like my cast iron skillet and my camp chair. It's one of the things I like when I'm car camping, but I don't bring them backpacking.

I rarely drink when I hike, but when I do it's a bit of good whisky, either straight, mixed with black coffee, or in the winter mixed with hot cherry jello (seriously)

I once did an Eiger Sancion movie move & had my friend haul beer. I slipped it in his pack on a local hike of the M & M Trail. We stoped for a break at an open fire tower in the hot humid summer heat. He climbed up & was sitting on the edge leaning against a rail catching what little breeze there was. I yelled up & asked if he wanted a beer. He said I had to be "F"ing nuts to carry beer in this weather. I agreed pulled out the two beers I hid in his pack & climbed up to join him. He complained about them being warm but shut up when I told him I thought it would be pushing it to far if I had him carry ice too! :woohoo:

Sarcasmtheelf · Jan 11th 2014, 6:44pm

BirdBrain wrote:

TrainWreck wrote:

SarcasmTheElf wrote:

milkman wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

hikerboy wrote:

for max benefit/weight, id go with bacardi 151. excellent firestarter as well.

Agreed. I was going to go straight there, but the other site has me gun shy. It would have drew a warning because he was asking about beer. I compared carrying bear spray to wearing a seatbelt. I have worn a seatbelt for decades and never "used" it. That was the post that I keep whining about that led me to leave. Gator said it was off topic because he didn't like the way I defined "use".

I doubt any of the WB mods look like her. :sick:

You don't know what they dress up in when they're off duty!!

HB is walking. So I'll be HB.
hehehehe, you said duty, hehehehe.

I had forgotten that so of our own were actually hiking this weekend. Any idea what section they are on? Currently 54* here in Southern Connecticut, I hope Lou didn't pack his -10f WM bag.

hikerboy · Jan 11th 2014, 6:47pm

We're at wawayanda shelter. rainy lo 40s

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