I find this interesting... eyeopening..
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Scott's somewhat rant on a vegetable diet
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i bought his book "eat and run"for my daughter alex, who's vegan. i'll probably read it after she's done with it.thi guy knows how to fuel the fire.its all good
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My retinas started disintegrating because I stopped eatting eggs. Good luck being a vegan.--
"What do you mean its sunrise already ?!", me. -
I would sneak bacon fat into all vegan dishes if I didn't have morals.
It sucks having morals.
Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss
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in this particular case I dislike your morals...
Rasty wrote:
I would sneak bacon fat into all vegan dishes if I didn't have morals.
It sucks having morals.
Dogs are excellent judges of character, this fact goes a long way toward explaining why some people don't like being around them. -
fixed it for ya.
Rasty wrote:
I would sneak bacon fat into all vegan dishes if I didn't have morsels.
It sucks having morals.
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I could live on an island with Scott Jurek and not compete for a morsel of food.
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maybe fries?
OzJacko wrote:
I could live on an island with Scott Jurek and not compete for a morsel of food.
Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
Methinks Mr. Jurek would not approve of my scrambled eggs with sausage and pepper jack cheese and more sausage patties that I'm getting ready to partake of......:D
The vidalia onions I included may well fit into his scheme though. If he doesn't approve of vidalia onions then piss on him.If your Doctor is a tree, you're on acid. -
I prefer mine cooked in fat.....
Rasty wrote:
maybe fries?OzJacko wrote:
I could live on an island with Scott Jurek and not compete for a morsel of food.
Resident Australian, proving being a grumpy old man is not just an American trait. -
A man that doesn't keep bacon grease in jars in his fridge can't be trusted. Unless, of course, he keeps it on his counter instead.If your Doctor is a tree, you're on acid.
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i have no intention of becoming a vegan, but the book has a lot of hi energy/high calorie recipes that can supplement my bacon on the trail.
JimBlue wrote:
My retinas started disintegrating because I stopped eatting eggs. Good luck being a vegan.
this guy ran to katahdin in 46 days, all without bacon. theres got to be something to his diet.its all good -
his crew was probably getting him big macs which he scarfed down at night in his van with the shades drawn.2,000 miler
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of course if you were stranded on a deserted island with him, you could eat him with no concern that he would recipeocate.
OzJacko wrote:
I could live on an island with Scott Jurek and not compete for a morsel of food.
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He is a bit bony....
Resident Australian, proving being a grumpy old man is not just an American trait. -
I bet he doesn't taste like chicken.Lost in the right direction.
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That wouldn't make a days worth of meals, but I bet I could make a decent spear point out of his femur, kill me a nice hog with it and then have me bacon.
odd man out wrote:
of course if you were stranded on a deserted island with him, you could eat him with no concern that he would recipeocate.OzJacko wrote:
I could live on an island with Scott Jurek and not compete for a morsel of food.
If your Doctor is a tree, you're on acid. -
i would use my survival bracelet to make a fishing line, catch a nice bluefin with him.its all good
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Oh yeah!If your Doctor is a tree, you're on acid.
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Being a vegan he had nothing to crave, nothing to draw him into town, nothing that he could eat 5000 calories of in one sitting with a jumbo Mountain Dew. It is sad. I feel bad for him.
hikerboy wrote:
i have no intention of becoming a vegan, but the book has a lot of hi energy/high calorie recipes that can supplement my bacon on the trail.this guy ran to katahdin in 46 days, all without bacon. theres got to be something to his diet.JimBlue wrote:
My retinas started disintegrating because I stopped eatting eggs. Good luck being a vegan.
Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
Indeed, it takes much more vegetables to get 5000 calories.
I do eat vegetables, they provide nutrition. But so does meat.
Some amino acids a human requires for good health are available from vegetables, but the rest are only found in meat.--
"What do you mean its sunrise already ?!", me. -
The combination of beans and rice provide all the essential amino acids.
JimBlue wrote:
Indeed, it takes much more vegetables to get 5000 calories.
I do eat vegetables, they provide nutrition. But so does meat.
Some amino acids a human requires for good health are available from vegetables, but the rest are only found in meat.
Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
I lived on rice and beans for years due to food allergies. I rarely even ate fish.
One of my relatives looked up various documents, and informed me such a diet lacked 3 essential amino acids.
Both my retinas were failing. I have had laser surgery on both to put them back together. I noticed my vision lessening. I had pro=blems seeing at night or dusk. I started eating eggs again, and my eyesight improved.
It did take over 20 years, but my eyes did start failing. From around 5 years of opthamologist's retina exams, my retinas are now fine. I can see at night and at dusk.
The only difference is I gave up a vegetable only diet.
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I'm not trying to dictate to anyone... I am just talking about my personal experience and how I almost went blind due to a vegetable only diet.--
"What do you mean its sunrise already ?!", me. -
The majority of the world lives on beans, rice and vegetables. Variety of bean type is often key to getting complete complimentary proteins. Most vegans need soy in their diet.
JimBlue wrote:
I lived on rice and beans for years due to food allergies. I rarely even ate fish.
One of my relatives looked up various documents, and informed me such a diet lacked 3 essential amino acids.
Both my retinas were failing. I have had laser surgery on both to put them back together. I noticed my vision lessening. I had pro=blems seeing at night or dusk. I started eating eggs again, and my eyesight improved.
It did take over 20 years, but my eyes did start failing. From around 5 years of opthamologist's retina exams, my retinas are now fine. I can see at night and at dusk.
The only difference is I gave up a vegetable only diet.
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I'm not trying to dictate to anyone... I am just talking about my personal experience and how I almost went blind due to a vegetable only diet.
Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
Also, there are other micronutrients that need managing. Phosphatidylcholines, vitamin B12, folate, n-3 and n-6 fatty acids, and various other essential nutrients are more easily obtained from animal sources. Some individuals also have a need for ordinarily nonessential nutrients such as taurine because of congenital defects in biosynthesis pathways.
Rasty wrote:
The majority of the world lives on beans, rice and vegetables. Variety of bean type is often key to getting complete complimentary proteins. Most vegans need soy in their diet.
I'm not lost. I know where I am. I'm right here. -
quinoa, spelt, soy milk, nutritional yeasts
AnotherKevin wrote:
Also, there are other micronutrients that need managing. Phosphatidylcholines, vitamin B12, folate, n-3 and n-6 fatty acids, and various other essential nutrients are more easily obtained from animal sources. Some individuals also have a need for ordinarily nonessential nutrients such as taurine because of congenital defects in biosynthesis pathways.Rasty wrote:
The majority of the world lives on beans, rice and vegetables. Variety of bean type is often key to getting complete complimentary proteins. Most vegans need soy in their diet.
Most vegans wind up taking a multi vitamin.
All problems solved by having an occasional cheeseburgerSometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
Lutein. Eggs are a good source and the body absorbs it best through the egg yolk.
JimBlue wrote:
I lived on rice and beans for years due to food allergies. I rarely even ate fish.
One of my relatives looked up various documents, and informed me such a diet lacked 3 essential amino acids.
Both my retinas were failing. I have had laser surgery on both to put them back together. I noticed my vision lessening. I had pro=blems seeing at night or dusk. I started eating eggs again, and my eyesight improved.
It did take over 20 years, but my eyes did start failing. From around 5 years of opthamologist's retina exams, my retinas are now fine. I can see at night and at dusk.
The only difference is I gave up a vegetable only diet.
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I'm not trying to dictate to anyone... I am just talking about my personal experience and how I almost went blind due to a vegetable only diet.
"Both lutein and zeaxanthin are carotenoids called xanthophylls, yellow-orange plant pigments. These carotenoids have been shown to reduce the risks of cataracts and age-related macular degeneration, the leading cause of blindness in those 65 and older. Lutein and zeaxanthin accumulate in the eye’s lens and in the macular region of the retina. Scientists believe high levels of lutein and zeaxanthin in these areas may protect the eye from damage due to oxidation. "Lost in the right direction. -
I'm adding eggs to my cheeseburgers from now on."Dazed and Confused"
Recycle, re-use, re-purpose
Plant a tree
Take a kid hiking
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Its found in green leafy vegetables but needs fats for absorption and the egg has a lot of it
jimmyjam wrote:
I'm adding eggs to my cheeseburgers from now on.
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I was actually thinking of the possiblilty that it was taurine. If native activity of cysteine sulfinic acid decarboxylase is low, the body can't make taurine. In dogs and cats, at least, taurine deficiency leads specifically to retinopathy.TrafficJam wrote:
Lutein. Eggs are a good source and the body absorbs it best through the egg yolk.
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both are important to eye health but work in different ways.
AnotherKevin wrote:
I was actually thinking of the possiblilty that it was taurine. If native activity of cysteine sulfinic acid decarboxylase is low, the body can't make taurine. In dogs and cats, at least, taurine deficiency leads specifically to retinopathy.TrafficJam wrote:
Lutein. Eggs are a good source and the body absorbs it best through the egg yolk.
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My first retina problem was at age 50. This after about 20-25 years as a vegan.--
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A vegan diet isn't about nutrition, it's about emotions.If your Doctor is a tree, you're on acid.
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There are about a 1/2 billion Indians that would probably disagree
Foresight wrote:
A vegan diet isn't about nutrition, it's about emotions.
Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
That's their prerogative. Do you think they know they're "vegan"?If your Doctor is a tree, you're on acid.
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Indians are well educated. I think they are aware.
Foresight wrote:
That's their prerogative. Do you think they know they're "vegan"?
Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
What were they prior to 1944 when the word was coined?If your Doctor is a tree, you're on acid.
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hindu
Foresight wrote:
What were they prior to 1944 when the word was coined?
Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
My point. They're not "vegan".If your Doctor is a tree, you're on acid.
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Find a vegan and ask them why they are vegan.....the answer you get will invariably be one based on emotion rather than nutrition.
"not wanting to be a willing participant in contributing to the suffering of any other living being"
"Because it makes me happy. I believe that by being a Vegan, I can help to reduce the suffering of animals who are farmed for meat and other by-products."
"because it's a healthy choice for me, the animals and the planet."
"I can't jusitfy putting my desire for a particular flavour above an animals life."
"Because I believe that eating animals and animal by products contributes to cruelty"
"I don't consider veganism itself activism - veganism is simply non-harming, and veg*n advocacy etc. is activism.
But anyway, if I was wearing that shirt, I'd probably have to answer by describing how cruel the animal abuse industries are. But if someone asked that in another context, I would try to make a response that:
a) expresses an AR viewpoint and not just AW
b) frames veganism as the normal, almost "default", choice and non-veganism as the abnormal choice that needs justification
I haven't really come up with a good response that would meet both criteria."
It's emotion, plain and simple.If your Doctor is a tree, you're on acid.
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