max.patch wrote:

I thought this was interesting about hiking the Grand Canyon Rim to Rim.

I've never done; my dad has done it a couple times that I know of. Although he does what he calls the "Rim to Rim and Back Again."


I was suprised at how many day hikers i saw at the bottom, considering all the park literature that says you shouldn't do it. Since i was there before the North Rim was open, these would have been rim to bottom back to rim hikers (not sure if there is jargon for that). Most will go down South Kaibab and up BrightAngel. They hit Indian Gsrdens on the way up in the afternoon. I saw over 30 people waiting in line to fill waterr bottles there. I think they had not turned the water on at the other rest houses yet, so this was their last water stop before the rim. If you are doing it, note there were three unused water taps in the camground. People who know that didn't have to wait in line. I also saw a lot of R2R2R trail runners. They were making their first pass through Phantom Ranch around breakfast time. I wonder if they will ever get to the point where they put in a Gov. William J. Le Petomane toll booth to day hike past the Tipp Off, Plateau Point, or Ribbon Falls? Anybody got any dimes?

odd man out wrote:

max.patch wrote:

I thought this was interesting about hiking the Grand Canyon Rim to Rim.

I've never done; my dad has done it a couple times that I know of. Although he does what he calls the "Rim to Rim and Back Again."


I was suprised at how many day hikers i saw at the bottom, considering all the park literature that says you shouldn't do it. Since i was there before the North Rim was open, these would have been rim to bottom back to rim hikers (not sure if there is jargon for that). Most will go down South Kaibab and up BrightAngel. They hit Indian Gsrdens on the way up in the afternoon. I saw over 30 people waiting in line to fill waterr bottles there. I think they had not turned the water on at the other rest houses yet, so this was their last water stop before the rim. If you are doing it, note there were three unused water taps in the camground. People who know that didn't have to wait in line. I also saw a lot of R2R2R trail runners. They were making their first pass through Phantom Ranch around breakfast time. I wonder if they will ever get to the point where they put in a Gov. William J. Le Petomane toll booth to day hike past the Tipp Off, Plateau Point, or Ribbon Falls? Anybody got any dimes?

odd man out wrote:

but seriously...
Overnight hikes require permits due to resource limitation (campground sites). At what point does the number of day hikers exceed the capacity of the trail resources? Would they ever get to the point where you would need a permit to hike into the inner gorge?

When i was exiting the Hermit trail i met a park volunteer whose job it was to monitor hikers on the trai. The hermit trail is very quiet. But he said the have more emergencies on the Bright Angel Trail than any other.