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Rasty wrote:
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
Rasty wrote:
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
drivel wrote:
Rasty wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
i have to assume i wont have cell service to call for help.
The forest service needs to install cell towers in the notches.
I agree. How can I cook my food where I can't access my stove spp?
[IMG:http://designbymini.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/iphone_ziptilt2b_480w.jpg]
I can't believe it is a real app. It is.
The sad thing is that I had photos of several competing apps to choose from...
[IMG:https://www.bicworld.com/img/gallery/iPhone_BIC_imagery.jpg]
[IMG:http://www.slipperybrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/smule_270x509.jpg]
What is this world coming to
Its called progress. Some of you weenies probably don't even carry a smartphone. -
drivel wrote:
Rasty wrote:
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
Rasty wrote:
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
drivel wrote:
Rasty wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
i have to assume i wont have cell service to call for help.
The forest service needs to install cell towers in the notches.
I agree. How can I cook my food where I can't access my stove spp?
[IMG:http://designbymini.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/iphone_ziptilt2b_480w.jpg]
I can't believe it is a real app. It is.
The sad thing is that I had photos of several competing apps to choose from...
[IMG:https://www.bicworld.com/img/gallery/iPhone_BIC_imagery.jpg]
[IMG:http://www.slipperybrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/smule_270x509.jpg]
What is this world coming to
Its called progress. Some of you weenies probably don't even carry a smartphone.
My smartphone is smarter then your smartphone.Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
Rasty wrote:
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
Rasty wrote:
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
drivel wrote:
Rasty wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
i have to assume i wont have cell service to call for help.
The forest service needs to install cell towers in the notches.
I agree. How can I cook my food where I can't access my stove spp?
[IMG:http://designbymini.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/iphone_ziptilt2b_480w.jpg]
I can't believe it is a real app. It is.
The sad thing is that I had photos of several competing apps to choose from...
[IMG:https://www.bicworld.com/img/gallery/iPhone_BIC_imagery.jpg]
[IMG:http://www.slipperybrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/smule_270x509.jpg]
What is this world coming to
Must be for the e-Cigerettes.The road to glory cannot be followed with much baggage.
Richard Ewell, CSA General -
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hikerboy wrote:
Rasty wrote:
How many days now?
Ppppplllllllllfffffffffffffffffffffffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm jealous. 52.gif"Dazed and Confused"
Recycle, re-use, re-purpose
Plant a tree
Take a kid hiking
Make a difference -
jimmyjam wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
Rasty wrote:
How many days now?
Ppppplllllllllfffffffffffffffffffffffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm jealous. 52.gif
Me tooSometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
hikerboy wrote:
Rasty wrote:
How many days now?
Like the monkey said when he got his tail chopped off, it won't be long now.The road to glory cannot be followed with much baggage.
Richard Ewell, CSA General -
i'm confused as to the whole smokies permit system as it pertains to the bmt. when i go online, it asked for which sites you want to reserve and when, but i dont intend to stay at any of the reservable sites(there are many more open sites than sites you need to have a reservation for), so i dont know how to proceed.do i still have to reserve sites that you dont need to reserve? what if my agenda changes?its all good
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hikerboy wrote:
i'm confused as to the whole smokies permit system as it pertains to the bmt. when i go online, it asked for which sites you want to reserve and when, but i dont intend to stay at any of the reservable sites(there are many more open sites than sites you need to have a reservation for), so i dont know how to proceed.do i still have to reserve sites that you dont need to reserve? what if my agenda changes?
All the sites need a reservation. There are old maps that show reservable and non-reservable sites but that's changed. As far as agenda changes...if you can, call and change your reservation. If it's a last minute change due to circumstances you couldn't have planned for, i.e bad weather, a closed site due to bear activity, etc., you do the best you can and the park rangers understand that.Lost in the right direction. -
You could just tell them u are a thru hiker. Then u don't have to make a reservation . They consider anyone starting 50 miles out to be a thru ."Dazed and Confused"
Recycle, re-use, re-purpose
Plant a tree
Take a kid hiking
Make a difference -
jimmyjam wrote:
You could just tell them u are a thru hiker. Then u don't have to make a reservation . They consider anyone starting 50 miles out to be a thru .its all good -
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jimmyjam wrote:
Right but aren't you on the AT thru the park?its all good -
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hikerboy wrote:
jimmyjam wrote:
Right but aren't you on the AT thru the park?
See i really am dazed and confused . Don't listen to me or I'll really have you doing it all wrong . Lol"Dazed and Confused"
Recycle, re-use, re-purpose
Plant a tree
Take a kid hiking
Make a difference -
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Did you figure out the reservations HB? There are older maps that have all the campsites color coded either red or green (designating which sites need reservations). The online system has red and green color coding but it's for stock or hiker only sites. That confused me the first time I made reservations.Lost in the right direction.
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TrafficJam wrote:
Did you figure out the reservations HB? There are older maps that have all the campsites color coded either red or green (designating which sites need reservations). The online system has red and green color coding but it's for stock or hiker only sites. That confused me the first time I made reservations.its all good -
hikerboy wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
Did you figure out the reservations HB? There are older maps that have all the campsites color coded either red or green (designating which sites need reservations). The online system has red and green color coding but it's for stock or hiker only sites. That confused me the first time I made reservations.
Let me know which spots and dates you reserve.Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
Rasty wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
Did you figure out the reservations HB? There are older maps that have all the campsites color coded either red or green (designating which sites need reservations). The online system has red and green color coding but it's for stock or hiker only sites. That confused me the first time I made reservations.
Let me know which spots and dates you reserve.
Are you planning to assume another identity?Non hikers are about a psi shy of a legal ball. -
BirdBrain wrote:
Rasty wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
Did you figure out the reservations HB? There are older maps that have all the campsites color coded either red or green (designating which sites need reservations). The online system has red and green color coding but it's for stock or hiker only sites. That confused me the first time I made reservations.
Let me know which spots and dates you reserve.
Are you planning to assume another identity?
I'm meeting HB to show him how to do it wrong.Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
Rasty wrote:
BirdBrain wrote:
Rasty wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
Did you figure out the reservations HB? There are older maps that have all the campsites color coded either red or green (designating which sites need reservations). The online system has red and green color coding but it's for stock or hiker only sites. That confused me the first time I made reservations.
Let me know which spots and dates you reserve.
Are you planning to assume another identity?
I'm meeting HB to show him how to do it wrong.its all good -
hikerboy wrote:
Rasty wrote:
BirdBrain wrote:
Rasty wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
Did you figure out the reservations HB? There are older maps that have all the campsites color coded either red or green (designating which sites need reservations). The online system has red and green color coding but it's for stock or hiker only sites. That confused me the first time I made reservations.
Let me know which spots and dates you reserve.
Are you planning to assume another identity?
I'm meeting HB to show him how to do it wrong.
oz perfected it in just one seasonits all good -
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hikerboy wrote:
so how do i reserve campsites 3 weeks in advance? how do i know where i want to camp every night?how flexible are these reservations?
OMG!Lost in the right direction. -
hikerboy wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
Rasty wrote:
BirdBrain wrote:
Rasty wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
Did you figure out the reservations HB? There are older maps that have all the campsites color coded either red or green (designating which sites need reservations). The online system has red and green color coding but it's for stock or hiker only sites. That confused me the first time I made reservations.
Let me know which spots and dates you reserve.
Are you planning to assume another identity?
I'm meeting HB to show him how to do it wrong.
oz perfected it in just one season
I researched well.....
gif.014Resident Australian, proving being a grumpy old man is not just an American trait. -
hikerboy wrote:
so how do i reserve campsites 3 weeks in advance? how do i know where i want to camp every night?how flexible are these reservations?
I bet drivel has an app for that.Non hikers are about a psi shy of a legal ball. -
hikerboy wrote:
so how do i reserve campsites 3 weeks in advance? how do i know where i want to camp every night?how flexible are these reservations?
My understanding was that the regs are written in offices and the rangers are in the field.
You make a reasonable attempt to plan it (even the date you get to GSMNP is a guess) and then if requested (probably won't be) you tell the ranger the whys of why your actual location differs and share a bitch session about the idiots in DC.Resident Australian, proving being a grumpy old man is not just an American trait. -
hikerboy wrote:
so how do i reserve campsites 3 weeks in advance? how do i know where i want to camp every night?how flexible are these reservations?
Are you joking or is this a serious question?Lost in the right direction. -
hikerboy wrote:
so how do i reserve campsites 3 weeks in advance? how do i know where i want to camp every night?how flexible are these reservations?
The park service is now employing El Salvadoran death squads along the BMT to enforce the reservation system.Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
HB - That phone call I was waiting on today was what I thought it was going to be. I may be heading to New Hampshire instead. I will know if I'm going by Monday.Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
Rasty wrote:
HB - That phone call I was waiting on today was what I thought it was going to be. I may be heading to New Hampshire instead. I will know if I'm going by Monday.its all good -
TrafficJam wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
so how do i reserve campsites 3 weeks in advance? how do i know where i want to camp every night?how flexible are these reservations?
Are you joking or is this a serious question?its all good -
hikerboy wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
so how do i reserve campsites 3 weeks in advance? how do i know where i want to camp every night?how flexible are these reservations?
Are you joking or is this a serious question?its all good -
hikerboy wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
so how do i reserve campsites 3 weeks in advance? how do i know where i want to camp every night?how flexible are these reservations?
Are you joking or is this a serious question?
Personally, I wouldn't make them now. You won't have problems with anything filling up except a few popular sites. If one site is full, stay some place else.Lost in the right direction. -
As far as I am concerned there is no good way to do the new reservations system. I hate it, but have to live with it.
What I recommend you do is wait until you get to Fontana Village to make a reservation for the park. At that point you will sort of have an idea of how much you want to hike a day and then can estimate the campsites based on that mileage. Theoretically you cannot deviate from your plan. In practice I hear that you will either never meet a ranger that will check your permit to see if you are staying where you said you were, or if you do change where you are staying with a valid excuse like "I over planned for how far I could walk in a day" or "the weather got bad and I had to stop", or "That stream crossing looked dangerous so I waited here for a day to see if the stream would abate". That said, there are no bad stream crossings on the BMTin the park as far as I am concerned.
Something to consider when you plan your mileage in the park: the Lakeshore trail profile makes it look easier than it really is. For some reason I think that the Lakeshore trail should be a mostly flat stroll along the lake, but it always feels harder to me than it seems it should be. So that said, do plan to make a higher than normal mile per day while on that section. Campsites I try to avoid: 90, 86, 98, 50. Campsites I specifically try to use if I can: 47 & 38. I'll also add that since Laurel Gap shelter was remodeled it is a very nice place to camp. I generally avoid shelters, but I don't go out of my way to avoid it. And even though you are not supposed to camp outside the shelter, no one has ever hassled me for doing it.
My last full hike of the BMT through the park I did it Sobo and had a good run of campsites. This was my hit list:: 38, 47, 52 (we did a resupply stop on this day), 64, 76, 88.. Since the max fee is $20, this would have been what we would have paid for 6 nights in the park had it been under the new system.
I hope that helps.
Tomorrow I'm going up to do some more recon of the new trail to see what all has been accomplished by the Sierra Club over the past week. I think if I were you I would probably plan to do the new trail when you get up close, and go through Fontana for resupply and to get your reservation done. As far as I know the only hard part would be a 1.9 mile section that hasn't seen any maintenance yet as far as I know, but has been flagged. If things stay on schedule, I'll be up there working that section with a couple of crews 26 April and 4-7 may. I think we can have some to most of that 1.9 done by the time I expect you should hit it. Hell, you might even see me up there. -
hikerboy wrote:
Rasty wrote:
HB - That phone call I was waiting on today was what I thought it was going to be. I may be heading to New Hampshire instead. I will know if I'm going by Monday.
I'll be in the kitchen the whole time. It's not cold in the kitchen.Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
hikerboy wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
so how do i reserve campsites 3 weeks in advance? how do i know where i want to camp every night?how flexible are these reservations?
Are you joking or is this a serious question?
The Lake Shore trail is very quiet.Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss
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