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I sent an email To Leo. Here's his reply:
- Leo Hennessy
- Sep 10 at 5:06 PM
- Michael Lacasse
You will love the Idaho Centennial Trail because of its remoteness and very few people. It is a difficult trail due to the lack of maintenance over the last few years. Fires have caused most of the problems. I do not have much info to give you. I have put everything on the IDPR website including the map. parksandrecreation.idaho.gov/activities/hiking I am not aware of any shuttle services or outfitters that would help out. No permits are required. Resupplying is difficult. On the web site you will find points where you will access a drivable road. After you read the ICT web pages please give me a call if you have questions.
- Leo Hennessy
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Mountain-Mike wrote:
I sent an email To Leo. Here's his reply:
- Leo Hennessy
- Sep 10 at 5:06 PM
- Michael Lacasse
You will love the Idaho Centennial Trail because of its remoteness and very few people. It is a difficult trail due to the lack of maintenance over the last few years. Fires have caused most of the problems. I do not have much info to give you. I have put everything on the IDPR website including the map. parksandrecreation.idaho.gov/activities/hiking I am not aware of any shuttle services or outfitters that would help out. No permits are required. Resupplying is difficult. On the web site you will find points where you will access a drivable road. After you read the ICT web pages please give me a call if you have questions.
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Leo HennessyNon-Motorized Trails Program Manager
5657 Warm Springs Avenue | Boise, ID 83716tel (208) 514-2419 | mobile (208) 866-6471
website | map| passport
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1965-2015: Helping You Make Lasting, Outdoor Memories for 50 Years
yeah, im up for a challenge.its all good - Leo Hennessy
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hikerboy wrote:
Mountain-Mike wrote:
I sent an email To Leo. Here's his reply:
- Leo Hennessy
- Sep 10 at 5:06 PM
- Michael Lacasse
You will love the Idaho Centennial Trail because of its remoteness and very few people. It is a difficult trail due to the lack of maintenance over the last few years. Fires have caused most of the problems. I do not have much info to give you. I have put everything on the IDPR website including the map. parksandrecreation.idaho.gov/activities/hiking I am not aware of any shuttle services or outfitters that would help out. No permits are required. Resupplying is difficult. On the web site you will find points where you will access a drivable road. After you read the ICT web pages please give me a call if you have questions.
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Leo HennessyNon-Motorized Trails Program Manager
5657 Warm Springs Avenue | Boise, ID 83716tel (208) 514-2419 | mobile (208) 866-6471
website | map| passport
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1965-2015: Helping You Make Lasting, Outdoor Memories for 50 Years
- Leo Hennessy
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Mountain-Mike wrote:
hikerboy wrote:
Mountain-Mike wrote:
I sent an email To Leo. Here's his reply:
- Leo Hennessy
- Sep 10 at 5:06 PM
- Michael Lacasse
You will love the Idaho Centennial Trail because of its remoteness and very few people. It is a difficult trail due to the lack of maintenance over the last few years. Fires have caused most of the problems. I do not have much info to give you. I have put everything on the IDPR website including the map. parksandrecreation.idaho.gov/activities/hiking I am not aware of any shuttle services or outfitters that would help out. No permits are required. Resupplying is difficult. On the web site you will find points where you will access a drivable road. After you read the ICT web pages please give me a call if you have questions.
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Leo HennessyNon-Motorized Trails Program Manager
5657 Warm Springs Avenue | Boise, ID 83716tel (208) 514-2419 | mobile (208) 866-6471
website | map| passport
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1965-2015: Helping You Make Lasting, Outdoor Memories for 50 Years
its all good - Leo Hennessy
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Timing for me is mid June to early Sept. It still cuts out a major show for me. Shifting it would cut out two, which is more than I can afford.
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Mountain-Mike wrote:
Timing for me is mid June to early Sept. It still cuts out a major show for me. Shifting it would cut out two, which is more than I can afford.
just thinking out loud. my preference is to walk from nevada to canada.
we have some time to put this all together.its all good -
Temps don't look to bad for June Glenns Ferry Temps.pdf
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Mountain-Mike wrote:
Temps don't look to bad for June Glenns Ferry Temps.pdf
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Well If we rent a car in Twin Falls & make some water caches it would help a lot. Drop off our first resupply at Hammett or Glenns Ferry. Cost sould be resonable. Would allow us to take our time out of the gate & get aclimized. Maybe even drop off second resupply (Sawtooh Lodge?)with clothing needed for sawtooths we won't need untill then.
I just renewed my subscription to Alltrails Maps so I should be able to produce some good PDF maps. Unfortunately I don't think there is any area that Nat Geo/TI has mapped of the ICT. But I can get different versions of topos & sats. What scale are you most comfortable with? -
Mountain-Mike wrote:
Well If we rent a car in Twin Falls & make some water caches it would help a lot. Drop off our first resupply at Hammett or Glenns Ferry. Cost sould be resonable. Would allow us to take our time out of the gate & get aclimized. Maybe even drop off second resupply (Sawtooh Lodge?)with clothing needed for sawtooths we won't need untill then.
I just renewed my subscription to Alltrails Maps so I should be able to produce some good PDF maps. Unfortunately I don't think there is any area that Nat Geo/TI has mapped of the ICT. But I can get different versions of topos & sats. What scale are you most comfortable with?
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I'll play around with it. It has various models; one looks similar to delorme, another actual USGS topos, road map, terrain map, & Sattalite. Nice part is I can do it to custom size & do muliple versions of same map. I used to have Delormne Topo US & liked it. It was easier creating printed maps. Alltrails is a little harder to use but can customize it better & save work as a pdf file. One drawback is you have to be online to crate the maps.
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I also sent an email to Stephan, the person mentioned in Dan Styers blog that hiked in 13 & was working on new maps.
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hikerboy wrote:
i loved it when it said the trail sometimes leads to a dead end of blowdown.
sounds like fun.W
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Mountain-Mike wrote:
Well If we rent a car in Twin Falls & make some water caches it would help a lot. Drop off our first resupply at Hammett or Glenns Ferry. Cost sould be resonable. Would allow us to take our time out of the gate & get aclimized. Maybe even drop off second resupply (Sawtooh Lodge?)with clothing needed for sawtooths we won't need untill then.
I just renewed my subscription to Alltrails Maps so I should be able to produce some good PDF maps. Unfortunately I don't think there is any area that Nat Geo/TI has mapped of the ICT. But I can get different versions of topos & sats. What scale are you most comfortable with?
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Re-supply points
By design, much of the Idaho Centennial Trail runs through the most remote andscenic countryside in Idaho, and thus, much of the trail is a long distance from anysemblance of civilization.Ideally, it’s best to plan a through-trip on the ICT with help from family and friendswho can meet you on the trail in pre-determined locations in remote areas andresupply you with mail, food, water and other essential supplies.Along the ICT route, there are several towns or key road intersections that you will pass through, whereyou could receive supplies for the next part of the journey:(Moving from the southern trailhead to the north)
- Murphy Hot Springs Road, 3 miles north of the Nevada border.
- Bruneau Canyon Overlook, about 15 miles south of Bruneau off of the Clover-Three Creek Road.
- Hammett, Idaho on I-84.- U.S. Highway 20 near Cat Creek Summit, about 30 miles east of Mountain Home.
- Virginia Gulch/South Fork of the Boise River pack bridge near Baumgartner Hot SpringCampground on USFS Road #227.
- Grandjean Lodge, about 6 miles off of Highway 21 on USFS Road #524.
-Idaho Highway 21/USFS Elk Creek Road #614, a 4-mile highway walk to Stanley.
- Lola Creek Campground trailhead, about 20 miles northwest of Stanley just off of Idaho Highway21.
- Middle Fork of the Salmon River float boat put-in on USFS Dagger Falls Road #558.
- Indian Creek backcountry USFS air strip on the Middle Fork of Salmon River in the Frank Church-Riverof No Return Wilderness, 25 miles downriver from Dagger Falls.
- End of the Stibnite-Thunder Mountain Mine USFS Road #375.
- Chamberlain Basin backcountry USFS air strip in the center of the Frank Church- River of NoReturn Wilderness.
- Main Salmon River crossing at Campbell’s Ferry (could be a jet boat resupply here).
- Magruder Corridor USFS Road #468 near Burnt Knob.- Running Creek USFS Road #357 at Warm Springs Bar.
- Moose Creek Ranger Station backcountry air strip in the Selway-Bitterroot Wilderness.
- Wilderness Gateway Campground on U.S. Highway 12.
- Old Kelly Creek Work Center on Moose Creek USFS Road #255.
- Hoodoo Pass on Long Creek USFS Road #250.
- Medicine Creek USFS Road #320 near Missoula Lake on the Idaho/Montana border.
- Gold Creek USFS Road #388 on the Idaho/Montana border.
- St Paul Pass on Cliff Creek USFS Road #560.
- Shoshone Park just off of I-90, about 3 miles east of Mullan.
- Cooper Pass on USFS Road #7623 on the Idaho/Montana border.
- Thompson Pass on USFS Highway 9 on the Idaho/Montana border.
- USFS Road #152 on the Idaho/Montana border.
- Porcupine Pass on USFS Road #151.
- Idaho Point, Idaho Point USFS Road #430.
- Clark Fork on Idaho Highway 200.
- U.S. Highway 95 at McArthur Lake State Wildlife Management Area.
- Priest Lake State Park, Indian Creek or Lionhead unit on the east shore of Priest Lake.
- North end of Bog Creek USFS Road #1013 near Upper Priest Falls.
- Centennial Trail East (Sawtooth Valley)
- Intersection Highway 75 and Chemeketan USFS Road #215 near Smiley Creek Lodge.
- Intersection Highway 75 and the Red Fish Lake USFS Road # 214, about 4 miles south of Stanley.
- Centennial Trail West (West of Frank Church and Selway/Bitteroot Wilderness)
- Landmark-Stanley USFS Road #579 near Pen Basin.
- Krassel Ranger Station, on USFS Road #674.
- Ponderosa Campground on USFS Lick Creek Road #412.
- Burgdorf Hot Springs on USFS Burgdorf Road #246.
- Wind River pack bridge that crosses the Main Salmon River on USFS Road #103.
- Elk City-Magruder Road, about 9 miles north of the Red River Ranger Station.
- Selway Falls on USFS Selway Road #223.
- Split Creek pack bridge that crosses the Lochsa River on Highway 12.its all good -
"Well, the ICT....what to say?
The Desert-
The Bruneau desert south of the snake river has one water source at Clover Crk. There were two tanks for cattle between Nevada and Clover creek. This is a 90 mile stretch to Hammett. Hammett has a cafe and small conv. store. The desert is prettier closer to the border but the heat can be a dealbreaker if its over 100. This is almost all on dirt roads.
The Midlands-
From Hammett to hunter transfer camp (Sawtooth NF) the trail is on dirt roads the entire way except for 2-3 miles on Bennett Mtn. There is a nice spring just after the paved road on the edge of the Camas prairie. There is very little/no water otherwise.
The Sawtooths-
In retrospect, this was the highlight of the trip. Most trails are well maintained between Willow Creek and Sawtooth? Lake. (It might be Stanley Lake, I can't remember at the moment). There are good views and plenty of water. In fact, my feet were soaked the entire time. Dozens of creek crossings from ankle to crotch deep.
The Frank-
Trails along creeks and rivers are mainly ok. Going overland is where the problems are. My advice would be to call ahead to the individual ranger districts and find out what has been cleared recently (if anything), and be prepared to alter your route accordingly. The rivers are spectacular and always offer the best hiking.
The Clearwater NF and Selway-Bitteroot--
This is where it really gets ugly. Definitely do your homework here as you WILL be taking alternate routes. From the Magruder corridor to Hwy 12 is a disaster. This is due to neglect by the Forest Circus, not necessarily fires. In some places fires helped, in others it exacerbated the problems.
I cannot comment on the 80-90 miles north of Hwy 12 as I have not done it yet.
The Stateline/Panhandle-(from 2012)
There is a 50 mile stretch of dirt road along the Stateline south of Mullan (Int.90-I think).
North of Mullan, there are actually some decent trails mixed in with a lot of dirt roads. Clark Fork and Naples are the resupply options.
Last year I looked and found NO TRAIL from dodge peak to mcarthur lake. I took Roman nose road directly to Naples via Highline Flats rd. I would recommend this route instead of the 12 mile road walk along the Pack river and highway 2.
OVERALL- I would say that for all the climbing, there are very few views...most of the ridges are thick with trees throughout the entire length of this hike...it also seems that the GPS and map routes have definitely not been ground checked in most places, don't trust them.
This trail looks great on paper, but I'm not sure it lives up to its billing. Maybe the 100 miles I have left are the best miles though!
Be sure to call and see what has been worked on lately, it's your only hope of thru-hiking this trail."its all good -
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Judging on when most stuff about the trail was last updated...is it in VHS format?
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Mountain-Mike wrote:
Judging on when most stuff about the trail was last updated...is it in VHS format?
Dogs are excellent judges of character, this fact goes a long way toward explaining why some people don't like being around them. -
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
Mountain-Mike wrote:
Judging on when most stuff about the trail was last updated...is it in VHS format?
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hikerboy wrote:
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
Mountain-Mike wrote:
Judging on when most stuff about the trail was last updated...is it in VHS format?
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its a idaho pbs documentray from 2006. the quality is excellent and the scenery stunning. the trail goes through every type of terrain, from hot dry and dusty to cold wet and windy. approximately 1/3 of it is on dirt roads, a patchwork of trails, traces, roads, and bushwacks.deserts, canyons, rivers, waterfalls, lakes ,streams,breathtaking mountain vistas, boreal forests. this trail has got it all.
except privies. there are no privies.
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Wow! Are you guys really going to do this? I paddled 100 miles of the Middle Fork of the Salmon about 20 years ago and I can tell you, the scenery is spectacular through the Sawtooths and the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness. We went with an outfiltter and hiked side trails along the river each day. I don't know if they were part of the ICT or not. There are so many hiking trails right along the river, native American petroglyphs, secret waterfalls, yeah! awesome doesn't begin to describe it!
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TrainWreck wrote:
Wow! Are you guys really going to do this? I paddled 100 miles of the Middle Fork of the Salmon about 20 years ago and I can tell you, the scenery is spectacular through the Sawtooths and the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness. We went with an outfiltter and hiked side trails along the river each day. I don't know if they were part of the ICT or not. There are so many hiking trails right along the river, native American petroglyphs, secret waterfalls, yeah! awesome doesn't begin to describe it!
I'm not lost. I know where I am. I'm right here.The post was edited 1 time, last by AnotherKevin: autocorrupt ().
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hikerboy wrote:
its a idaho pbs documentray from 2006. the quality is excellent and the scenery stunning. the trail goes through every type of terrain, from hot dry and dusty to cold wet and windy. approximately 1/3 of it is on dirt roads, a patchwork of trails, traces, roads, and bushwacks.deserts, canyons, rivers, waterfalls, lakes ,streams,breathtaking mountain vistas, boreal forests. this trail has got it all.
except privies. there are no privies.
im psyched
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TrainWreck wrote:
Wow! Are you guys really going to do this? I paddled 100 miles of the Middle Fork of the Salmon about 20 years ago and I can tell you, the scenery is spectacular through the Sawtooths and the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness. We went with an outfiltter and hiked side trails along the river each day. I don't know if they were part of the ICT or not. There are so many hiking trails right along the river, native American petroglyphs, secret waterfalls, yeah! awesome doesn't begin to describe it!
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i just ordered another guidebook for the ict.itll be here next week: createspace.com/5165390.
apparently the ict is part of the hot springs trail
wholefoodhiker.com/its all good -
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hikerboy wrote:
i just ordered another guidebook for the ict.itll be here next week: createspace.com/5165390.
apparently the ict is part of the hot springs trail
wholefoodhiker.com/
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CoachLou wrote:
Does the vid mention which are clothing optional?
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