max.patch wrote:
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Dogs are excellent judges of character, this fact goes a long way toward explaining why some people don't like being around them.
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max.patch wrote:
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Mountain-Mike wrote:
Maybe they can set up a "joint use permit" similar to what PCT is now doing. It covers all national parks & wilderness areas where permits are required. Limit numbers on start dates. Or ATC coud recognize the BMT as an alternative for start. I don't see shelters as much of an issue anymore since they fill up so quick. Eliminating a dozen or so won't do a lot. Three years ago hiker called in that he counted 43 tents at Hawk Mt in early April. As much I I hate paying twice for something that belongs to taxpayes set up a thru hike permit. $5 shouldn't bust a budget for a thru if the money is spent to help the trail.
Dan76 wrote:
Once a government entity imposes a fee for any service or permit for usage, there's little to hinder future fee increases or misappropriating the funds for use other than for the original intent.
JimBlue wrote:
Alabama got a law on the books by voting last year. Money spent at the self sustaining state parks was being grabbed to bolster the state budget. Passed 80% for. But it included the right to add things like hotels and golf courses. I think it would be a bit difficult to add a golf course to Cheaha. Unless theyDan76 wrote:
Once a government entity imposes a fee for any service or permit for usage, there's little to hinder future fee increases or misappropriating the funds for use other than for the original intent.
included a zip line to go around the course.
Oops forgot. The law was to block grabbing the money from the parks and spending it elsewhere.
Rasty wrote:
I have worked in the golf industry most of my life. There are very few places that cannot be made into a golf course. The good news is that golf is a dying industry in America. The number of golf courses is decreasing each year. The industry knows it a done in the next 40 years because those under 30 have essentially no interest in golf. The number of courses will probably shrink by about 75%.JimBlue wrote:
Alabama got a law on the books by voting last year. Money spent at the self sustaining state parks was being grabbed to bolster the state budget. Passed 80% for. But it included the right to add things like hotels and golf courses. I think it would be a bit difficult to add a golf course to Cheaha. Unless theyincluded a zip line to go around the course.Dan76 wrote:
Once a government entity imposes a fee for any service or permit for usage, there's little to hinder future fee increases or misappropriating the funds for use other than for the original intent.
Oops forgot. The law was to block grabbing the money from the parks and spending it elsewhere.
JimBlue wrote:
I don't know of any flat areas in Cheaha. State Park as it is the peak area of the mountain around the summit.
Rasty wrote:
A bulldozer, backhoe and explosives can change that in a few week.JimBlue wrote:
I don't know of any flat areas in Cheaha. State Park as it is the peak area of the mountain around the summit.
JimBlue wrote:
Then Mt Cheaha will no longer be the highest location in Alabama.Rasty wrote:
A bulldozer, backhoe and explosives can change that in a few week.JimBlue wrote:
I don't know of any flat areas in Cheaha. State Park as it is the peak area of the mountain around the summit.
Maybe we can relocate something... nah.
Rasty wrote:
Fox Squirrels?JimBlue wrote:
The largest squirrels I have ever seen were in Cheaha. SP.
Rasty wrote:
Fox Squirrels?JimBlue wrote:
The largest squirrels I have ever seen were in Cheaha. SP.
Dan76 wrote:
And most likely the majority of the dying courses will undergo a housing development transformation. Hopefully many will evolve into urban parks.Rasty wrote:
I have worked in the golf industry most of my life. There are very few places that cannot be made into a golf course. The good news is that golf is a dying industry in America. The number of golf courses is decreasing each year. The industry knows it a done in the next 40 years because those under 30 have essentially no interest in golf. The number of courses will probably shrink by about 75%.JimBlue wrote:
Alabama got a law on the books by voting last year. Money spent at the self sustaining state parks was being grabbed to bolster the state budget. Passed 80% for. But it included the right to add things like hotels and golf courses. I think it would be a bit difficult to add a golf course to Cheaha. Unless theyincluded a zip line to go around the course.Dan76 wrote:
Once a government entity imposes a fee for any service or permit for usage, there's little to hinder future fee increases or misappropriating the funds for use other than for the original intent.
Oops forgot. The law was to block grabbing the money from the parks and spending it elsewhere.