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I thought that was what scabs were for.TrafficJam wrote:
Vaseline creates a barrier that keeps bacteria out of wounds.WanderingStovie wrote:
I prefer to let my cuts dry out, for the same reason meat is preserved by drying. Bacteria need moisture to thrive.
But maybe I'm doing it wrong.
(just being an a-hole) 
jimmyjam wrote:
whiskey. Shame on you.TrafficJam wrote:
Because I could only think of nine things.jimmyjam wrote:
why the beeswax bar?
WanderingStovie wrote:
I thought that was what scabs were for.TrafficJam wrote:
Vaseline creates a barrier that keeps bacteria out of wounds.WanderingStovie wrote:
I prefer to let my cuts dry out, for the same reason meat is preserved by drying. Bacteria need moisture to thrive.
But maybe I'm doing it wrong.
Dan76 wrote:
Of the following products (other then the styptic powder/sticks), any recommendations?TrafficJam wrote:
I'm not sure what works best. Mine isn't available over the counter but pharmacies carry them in gauze and powder form.meat wrote:
what do you recommend for the absorbable hemostat?TrafficJam wrote:
My top ten, not including shelter, bag, clothing
Compass
lighter
Vaseline cotton balls
Rope
Absorbable hemostat
Duct tape
Knife
Aspirin
Benadryl
Beeswax bar
amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords…06&ref=pd_sl_3yfncna2w9_e
that what my dermatologist tells me re the vaseline. she always gives me samples of aquaphor, but tells me vaseline works just as well.TrafficJam wrote:
No, you are making logical assumptions. Moisture from water, sweat, etc, can cause bacteria to grow in a wound so wounds should be washed and dried thoroughly, but Vaseline creates a barrier, as previously mentioned, that helps wound healing.WanderingStovie wrote:
I thought that was what scabs were for.TrafficJam wrote:
Vaseline creates a barrier that keeps bacteria out of wounds.WanderingStovie wrote:
I prefer to let my cuts dry out, for the same reason meat is preserved by drying. Bacteria need moisture to thrive.
But maybe I'm doing it wrong.
A wound moistened with Vaseline (as well as other products) heals faster and with less scarring than one allowed to dry and scab. Scabs, while also creating a barrier, delay healing.
max.patch wrote:
that what my dermatologist tells me re the vaseline. she always gives me samples of aquaphor, but tells me vaseline works just as well.TrafficJam wrote:
No, you are making logical assumptions. Moisture from water, sweat, etc, can cause bacteria to grow in a wound so wounds should be washed and dried thoroughly, but Vaseline creates a barrier, as previously mentioned, that helps wound healing.A wound moistened with Vaseline (as well as other products) heals faster and with less scarring than one allowed to dry and scab. Scabs, while also creating a barrier, delay healing.WanderingStovie wrote:
I thought that was what scabs were for.TrafficJam wrote:
Vaseline creates a barrier that keeps bacteria out of wounds.WanderingStovie wrote:
I prefer to let my cuts dry out, for the same reason meat is preserved by drying. Bacteria need moisture to thrive.
But maybe I'm doing it wrong.
I hear runners of both sexes get sore nipples, but men are at greater risk for not wearing a bra (bro?).TrafficJam wrote:
yep, another excellent product is lansinoh breast cream.max.patch wrote:
that what my dermatologist tells me re the vaseline. she always gives me samples of aquaphor, but tells me vaseline works just as well.TrafficJam wrote:
No, you are making logical assumptions. Moisture from water, sweat, etc, can cause bacteria to grow in a wound so wounds should be washed and dried thoroughly, but Vaseline creates a barrier, as previously mentioned, that helps wound healing.A wound moistened with Vaseline (as well as other products) heals faster and with less scarring than one allowed to dry and scab. Scabs, while also creating a barrier, delay healing.WanderingStovie wrote:
I thought that was what scabs were for.TrafficJam wrote:
Vaseline creates a barrier that keeps bacteria out of wounds.WanderingStovie wrote:
I prefer to let my cuts dry out, for the same reason meat is preserved by drying. Bacteria need moisture to thrive.
But maybe I'm doing it wrong.
WanderingStovie wrote:
I hear runners of both sexes get sore nipples, but men are at greater risk for not wearing a bra (bro?).TrafficJam wrote:
yep, another excellent product is lansinoh breast cream.max.patch wrote:
that what my dermatologist tells me re the vaseline. she always gives me samples of aquaphor, but tells me vaseline works just as well.TrafficJam wrote:
No, you are making logical assumptions. Moisture from water, sweat, etc, can cause bacteria to grow in a wound so wounds should be washed and dried thoroughly, but Vaseline creates a barrier, as previously mentioned, that helps wound healing.A wound moistened with Vaseline (as well as other products) heals faster and with less scarring than one allowed to dry and scab. Scabs, while also creating a barrier, delay healing.WanderingStovie wrote:
I thought that was what scabs were for.TrafficJam wrote:
Vaseline creates a barrier that keeps bacteria out of wounds.WanderingStovie wrote:
I prefer to let my cuts dry out, for the same reason meat is preserved by drying. Bacteria need moisture to thrive.
But maybe I'm doing it wrong.
True.TrafficJam wrote:
No, you are making logical assumptions. Moisture from water, sweat, etc, can cause bacteria to grow in a wound so wounds should be washed and dried thoroughly, but Vaseline creates a barrier, as previously mentioned, that helps wound healing.WanderingStovie wrote:
I thought that was what scabs were for.TrafficJam wrote:
Vaseline creates a barrier that keeps bacteria out of wounds.WanderingStovie wrote:
I prefer to let my cuts dry out, for the same reason meat is preserved by drying. Bacteria need moisture to thrive.
But maybe I'm doing it wrong.
A wound moistened with Vaseline (as well as other products) heals faster and with less scarring than one allowed to dry and scab. Scabs, while also creating a barrier, delay healing.
I've heard that Bag Balm is great stuff. Same idea, different species.TrafficJam wrote:
yep, another excellent product is lansinoh breast cream.max.patch wrote:
that what my dermatologist tells me re the vaseline. she always gives me samples of aquaphor, but tells me vaseline works just as well.TrafficJam wrote:
No, you are making logical assumptions. Moisture from water, sweat, etc, can cause bacteria to grow in a wound so wounds should be washed and dried thoroughly, but Vaseline creates a barrier, as previously mentioned, that helps wound healing.A wound moistened with Vaseline (as well as other products) heals faster and with less scarring than one allowed to dry and scab. Scabs, while also creating a barrier, delay healing.WanderingStovie wrote:
I thought that was what scabs were for.TrafficJam wrote:
Vaseline creates a barrier that keeps bacteria out of wounds.WanderingStovie wrote:
I prefer to let my cuts dry out, for the same reason meat is preserved by drying. Bacteria need moisture to thrive.
But maybe I'm doing it wrong.
odd man out wrote:
I've heard that Bag Balm is great stuff. Same idea, different species.TrafficJam wrote:
yep, another excellent product is lansinoh breast cream.max.patch wrote:
that what my dermatologist tells me re the vaseline. she always gives me samples of aquaphor, but tells me vaseline works just as well.TrafficJam wrote:
No, you are making logical assumptions. Moisture from water, sweat, etc, can cause bacteria to grow in a wound so wounds should be washed and dried thoroughly, but Vaseline creates a barrier, as previously mentioned, that helps wound healing.A wound moistened with Vaseline (as well as other products) heals faster and with less scarring than one allowed to dry and scab. Scabs, while also creating a barrier, delay healing.WanderingStovie wrote:
I thought that was what scabs were for.TrafficJam wrote:
Vaseline creates a barrier that keeps bacteria out of wounds.WanderingStovie wrote:
I prefer to let my cuts dry out, for the same reason meat is preserved by drying. Bacteria need moisture to thrive.
But maybe I'm doing it wrong.
Well - we are discussing a better choice than an overall simple list. A white Micro Bic is the choice of UL over a "lighter" Gorilla tape appears to be better than duct. Concrete string is UL and as or better than most over the counter rope. A small Leatherman holds its sharpness better than Wenger Swiss. Some Compasses today are useless the moment you take them home. For joint health OTC Aleve is awesome, for headaches caffeine and Aspirin may be better. I had hoped I had conveyed that this was what the tread was about.TrafficJam wrote:
My top ten, not including shelter, bag, clothing
Compass
lighter
Vaseline cotton balls
Rope
Absorbance hemostat
Duct tape
Knife
Aspirin
Benadryl
Beeswax bar
Wise Old Owl wrote:
Well - we are discussing a better choice than an overall simple list. A white Micro Bic is the choice of UL over a "lighter" Gorilla tape appears to be better than duct. Concrete string is UL and as or better than most over the counter rope. A small Leatherman holds its sharpness better than Wenger Swiss. Some Compasses today are useless the moment you take them home. For joint health OTC Aleve is awesome, for headaches caffeine and Aspirin may be better. I had hoped I had conveyed that this was what the tread was about.TrafficJam wrote:
My top ten, not including shelter, bag, clothing
Compass
lighter
Vaseline cotton balls
Rope
Absorbance hemostat
Duct tape
Knife
Aspirin
Benadryl
Beeswax bar
So TJ what is the best compass for you if you got confused on or off the trail and there is no sun? What are you comfortable to carry, what works for you?
What rules - no rules, just a simple discussion. You are in control of friends, hikers both section and thru... go ahead be wordy - nobody would be upset. This is more about making better choices.. I had no idea gorilla tape would be a better choice prior to this thread. White micro bics - you can see how much fluid is left when held up tot he sun... I left that out by accident. Nothing wrong with sharing an opinion... bring it on! lets have some fun. 2 years ago someone mentioned bringing a rubber to carry water from the stream... doesn't make it wrong... odd yes... but it works for that guy.. not me. I prefer a disposable spring water bottle.TrafficJam wrote:
Sorry for not playing by your rules.Wise Old Owl wrote:
Well - we are discussing a better choice than an overall simple list. A white Micro Bic is the choice of UL over a "lighter" Gorilla tape appears to be better than duct. Concrete string is UL and as or better than most over the counter rope. A small Leatherman holds its sharpness better than Wenger Swiss. Some Compasses today are useless the moment you take them home. For joint health OTC Aleve is awesome, for headaches caffeine and Aspirin may be better. I had hoped I had conveyed that this was what the tread was about.So TJ what is the best compass for you if you got confused on or off the trail and there is no sun? What are you comfortable to carry, what works for you?TrafficJam wrote:
My top ten, not including shelter, bag, clothing
Compass
lighter
Vaseline cotton balls
Rope
Absorbance hemostat
Duct tape
Knife
Aspirin
Benadryl
Beeswax bar
After my Iist, I nearly wrote, "thanks to this thread, several of those items are going to be upgraded." But didn't want to be too wordy.
Wise Old Owl wrote:
What rules - no rules, just a simple discussion. You are in control of friends, hikers both section and thru... go ahead be wordy - nobody would be upset. This is more about making better choices.. I had no idea gorilla tape would be a better choice prior to this thread. White micro bics - you can see how much fluid is left when held up tot he sun... I left that out by accident. Nothing wrong with sharing an opinion... bring it on! lets have some fun. 2 years ago someone mentioned bringing a rubber to carry water from the stream... doesn't make it wrong... odd yes... but it works for that guy.. not me. I prefer a disposable spring water bottle.TrafficJam wrote:
Sorry for not playing by your rules.After my Iist, I nearly wrote, "thanks to this thread, several of those items are going to be upgraded." But didn't want to be too wordy.Wise Old Owl wrote:
Well - we are discussing a better choice than an overall simple list. A white Micro Bic is the choice of UL over a "lighter" Gorilla tape appears to be better than duct. Concrete string is UL and as or better than most over the counter rope. A small Leatherman holds its sharpness better than Wenger Swiss. Some Compasses today are useless the moment you take them home. For joint health OTC Aleve is awesome, for headaches caffeine and Aspirin may be better. I had hoped I had conveyed that this was what the tread was about.So TJ what is the best compass for you if you got confused on or off the trail and there is no sun? What are you comfortable to carry, what works for you?TrafficJam wrote:
My top ten, not including shelter, bag, clothing
Compass
lighter
Vaseline cotton balls
Rope
Absorbance hemostat
Duct tape
Knife
Aspirin
Benadryl
Beeswax bar
FYI - my purpose here is to drive threads, increase reads, make this website so much popular than this idiot...That's my diabolical plan to rule the internet... (a Joke)Once you read this delete this post please out of respect.
odd man out wrote:
It turns out there is a relatively easy way to remove a cork without a cork screw. This is shown with a stone wall. I've seen it done without the shoe on a tree trunk. Of course, who wants to carry around a tree.meat wrote:
yeah mostly it's a curtsey thing, kinda "is there a doctor in the house" cause when a cork needs pulling there is no substitute to the screw.max.patch wrote:
i think i used my cork screw a couple times on my thru and none since. there are plenty of "good enough for the woods" wine that comes with a screw top these days. at least good enough for my palate.meat wrote:
Cork screw for bears and wine, bears hate the sight of a cork screw.
youtube.com/watch?v=u1wROm-OF9w
I always carry three forms of fire:bic, matches and swedish firesteelmeat wrote:
I just bring good old matches, keep em dry they'll last a good long time. Can't tell ya how many bic lighters I've toss for one reason or another. Not saying don't use a bic, but ya better have a back up plan.
jimmyjam wrote:
I always carry three forms of fire:bic, matches and swedish firesteelmeat wrote:
I just bring good old matches, keep em dry they'll last a good long time. Can't tell ya how many bic lighters I've toss for one reason or another. Not saying don't use a bic, but ya better have a back up plan.
my experience also with lightersmeat wrote:
I just bring good old matches, keep em dry they'll last a good long time. Can't tell ya how many bic lighters I've toss for one reason or another. Not saying don't use a bic, but ya better have a back up plan.
yes, any piece of steel with an edge should work. Mine came with a striker steel lightmyfire.com/products/products/swedish-firesteel-20.aspxTrafficJam wrote:
I've been thinking about trying a firesteel, seems fail proof. Do you think a small leatherman knife will work with it?jimmyjam wrote:
I always carry three forms of fire:bic, matches and swedish firesteelmeat wrote:
I just bring good old matches, keep em dry they'll last a good long time. Can't tell ya how many bic lighters I've toss for one reason or another. Not saying don't use a bic, but ya better have a back up plan.
I have a fire steal as well as a last resort or when it's super windy and my matches are being fussy.TrafficJam wrote:
I've been thinking about trying a firesteel, seems fail proof. Do you think a small leatherman knife will work with it?jimmyjam wrote:
I always carry three forms of fire:bic, matches and swedish firesteelmeat wrote:
I just bring good old matches, keep em dry they'll last a good long time. Can't tell ya how many bic lighters I've toss for one reason or another. Not saying don't use a bic, but ya better have a back up plan.
jimmyjam wrote:
yes, any piece of steel with an edge should work. Mine came with a striker steel lightmyfire.com/products/products/swedish-firesteel-20.aspxTrafficJam wrote:
I've been thinking about trying a firesteel, seems fail proof. Do you think a small leatherman knife will work with it?jimmyjam wrote:
I always carry three forms of fire:bic, matches and swedish firesteelmeat wrote:
I just bring good old matches, keep em dry they'll last a good long time. Can't tell ya how many bic lighters I've toss for one reason or another. Not saying don't use a bic, but ya better have a back up plan.
jimmyjam wrote:
yes, any piece of steel with an edge should work. Mine came with a striker steel lightmyfire.com/products/products/swedish-firesteel-20.aspxTrafficJam wrote:
I've been thinking about trying a firesteel, seems fail proof. Do you think a small leatherman knife will work with it?jimmyjam wrote:
I always carry three forms of fire:bic, matches and swedish firesteelmeat wrote:
I just bring good old matches, keep em dry they'll last a good long time. Can't tell ya how many bic lighters I've toss for one reason or another. Not saying don't use a bic, but ya better have a back up plan.
odd man out wrote:
I carry vaseline as an ointment and firestarter. An emergency whistle on my sternum strap. Leukotape for bandages and hot spots. Tenacious tape for gear repair. Aspirin for heart health. SAK Ambassador (same as the Classic, just a bit bigger mostly for scissors amd small blade). A dollar store car sunscreen (emergency sleeping pad if air mattress leaks, extra insulation if cold, reflector for signaling, pad to sit on, vestibule floor). Tick Twister for twisting ticks.
Drybones wrote:
I carry a bic and a bic back up.
WanderingStovie wrote:
I've used a Canadian (Coghlan's) p38 with a ferro cerium rod. After checking Wikipedia, I see that it is a P-51, not a P-38.jimmyjam wrote:
yes, any piece of steel with an edge should work. Mine came with a striker steel lightmyfire.com/products/products/swedish-firesteel-20.aspxTrafficJam wrote:
I've been thinking about trying a firesteel, seems fail proof. Do you think a small leatherman knife will work with it?jimmyjam wrote:
I always carry three forms of fire:bic, matches and swedish firesteelmeat wrote:
I just bring good old matches, keep em dry they'll last a good long time. Can't tell ya how many bic lighters I've toss for one reason or another. Not saying don't use a bic, but ya better have a back up plan.
CoachLou wrote:
my John Wayne has been on my key ring since bootWanderingStovie wrote:
I've used a Canadian (Coghlan's) p38 with a ferro cerium rod. After checking Wikipedia, I see that it is a P-51, not a P-38.jimmyjam wrote:
yes, any piece of steel with an edge should work. Mine came with a striker steel lightmyfire.com/products/products/swedish-firesteel-20.aspxTrafficJam wrote:
I've been thinking about trying a firesteel, seems fail proof. Do you think a small leatherman knife will work with it?jimmyjam wrote:
I always carry three forms of fire:bic, matches and swedish firesteelmeat wrote:
I just bring good old matches, keep em dry they'll last a good long time. Can't tell ya how many bic lighters I've toss for one reason or another. Not saying don't use a bic, but ya better have a back up plan.
CoachLou wrote:
my John Wayne has been on my key ring since bootWanderingStovie wrote:
I've used a Canadian (Coghlan's) p38 with a ferro cerium rod. After checking Wikipedia, I see that it is a P-51, not a P-38.jimmyjam wrote:
yes, any piece of steel with an edge should work. Mine came with a striker steel lightmyfire.com/products/products/swedish-firesteel-20.aspxTrafficJam wrote:
I've been thinking about trying a firesteel, seems fail proof. Do you think a small leatherman knife will work with it?jimmyjam wrote:
I always carry three forms of fire:bic, matches and swedish firesteelmeat wrote:
I just bring good old matches, keep em dry they'll last a good long time. Can't tell ya how many bic lighters I've toss for one reason or another. Not saying don't use a bic, but ya better have a back up plan.
CoachLou wrote:
my John Wayne has been on my key ring since bootWanderingStovie wrote:
I've used a Canadian (Coghlan's) p38 with a ferro cerium rod. After checking Wikipedia, I see that it is a P-51, not a P-38.jimmyjam wrote:
yes, any piece of steel with an edge should work. Mine came with a striker steel lightmyfire.com/products/products/swedish-firesteel-20.aspxTrafficJam wrote:
I've been thinking about trying a firesteel, seems fail proof. Do you think a small leatherman knife will work with it?jimmyjam wrote:
I always carry three forms of fire:bic, matches and swedish firesteelmeat wrote:
I just bring good old matches, keep em dry they'll last a good long time. Can't tell ya how many bic lighters I've toss for one reason or another. Not saying don't use a bic, but ya better have a back up plan.
Drybones wrote:
I carry a bic and a bic back up.
