Years ago Tony Kornheiser said the Washington Redskins could keep their name -- all they had to do was to change their mascot/logo to a bowl of steaming red skin potatoes. 
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I recently read several esssys from various American Indian publications addressing the use of the word "Indian" to refer collectively to the indigenous people of North America. While there was some diversity of opinion, in general the authors felt this word was acceptible and superior to alternatives, such as "native Americans". Part of their logic was that to a person, the authors identity themselves according to their tribe, or clan within the tribe. Historically, there was no term for the continent's population as there was no need for one. Some objected to the fact that non-Indians have taken it upon themselves to decide what terms Indians should find offensive and use to identity themselves. None of these essays addressed the issue of athletic team names, but based on what I read, I wonder if anyone asked the Indians. It really is not for me to say, but I suspect getting rid of the Redskins and Squaw Valley are a higher priority.
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I know in the past the Seminoles have always been proud of FSU.
odd man out wrote:
I recently read several esssys from various American Indian publications addressing the use of the word "Indian" to refer collectively to the indigenous people of North America. While there was some diversity of opinion, in general the authors felt this word was acceptible and superior to alternatives, such as "native Americans". Part of their logic was that to a person, the authors identity themselves according to their tribe, or clan within the tribe. Historically, there was no term for the continent's population as there was no need for one. Some objected to the fact that non-Indians have taken it upon themselves to decide what terms Indians should find offensive and use to identity themselves. None of these essays addressed the issue of athletic team names, but based on what I read, I wonder if anyone asked the Indians. It really is not for me to say, but I suspect getting rid of the Redskins and Squaw Valley are a higher priority.
The road to glory cannot be followed with much baggage.
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Well expect maybe not that time when the "Ol Ball Coach" called them Free Shoes University.
Astro wrote:
I know in the past the Seminoles have always been proud of FSU.
The road to glory cannot be followed with much baggage.
Richard Ewell, CSA General -
Congrats to the Atlanta Black Crackers who as it turns out was Atlantas first major league baseball team. At least that's what our sports page says.2,000 miler
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I am all for respectiging the Negro Baseball Leauges, and look forward to visiting the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum in Kansas City someday. I feel Jackie Robinson was the greatest agent of change in the past century.
But combining the NBL statistics with MLB statistics is so flawed, and very disappointing.
The road to glory cannot be followed with much baggage.
Richard Ewell, CSA General -
Speaking strictly as a numbers guy it makes no sense to change the stats.
I wonder if they would have done so if any of the "major" records would have been broken -- say home runs or consecutive games played.2,000 miler -
I am glad the stats are no longer segregated. This rights a wrong.
Of course, it does introduce all sorts of interesting debate about the merit of a higher batting average in a short-season negro league versus the longer season MLB. But hasn't that always been the fun of all the stats being impossible to fairly compare. Should this weird Covid season be included in the MLB stats? Baseball has changed over time so in many ways all the records are open to debate.
Should a juiced up Barry Bonds hitting juiced up baseballs for 73 HRs be compared to Babe Ruth clouting 60 HR's in 1927 (which exceeded the output of many entire teams that year)?
Add the negro league statistics into an already muddled mix and let the debates begin. It is all part of the fun and Satchel Paige and Josh Gibson and many others deserve their due.“Of all sad words of tongue or pen,
the saddest are these, 'It might have been.”
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It will a long time before all the stats get reconciled and this settles out. Let the debates begin...
aol.com/sports/5-ways-baseballs-time-record-215644774.html“Of all sad words of tongue or pen,
the saddest are these, 'It might have been.”
John Greenleaf Whittier -
That's the example I use when the whole "greatest home run hitter" debate comes up. It wasn't that Babe hit 60 and someone else hit less. It's that Babe hit 60 and other TEAMS hit less.
IMScotty wrote:
Babe Ruth clouting 60 HR's in 1927 (which exceeded the output of many entire teams that year)?
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If you bought that $64,000 Babe Ruth autographed ball from Costco, now you can pair it with a $160,000 bat autographed by Ty Cobb.
costco.com/ty-cobb-autographed…z_AKGxybxNNuTv0cqnYXVm8xU
Edit to add: The $900 baseball signed by Sandy Koufax they also have is suddenly looking like a steal of a deal.2,000 miler -
I have Sandy Koufax's autograph on the back of a Steve Yeager post card. I doubt it is worth that much, but I really appreciate him taking the time to sign it for me.
max.patch wrote:
If you bought that $64,000 Babe Ruth autographed ball from Costco, now you can pair it with a $160,000 bat autographed by Ty Cobb.
costco.com/ty-cobb-autographed…z_AKGxybxNNuTv0cqnYXVm8xU
Edit to add: The $900 baseball signed by Sandy Koufax they also have is suddenly looking like a steal of a deal.
The road to glory cannot be followed with much baggage.
Richard Ewell, CSA General -
I thought he was still playing. Wasn't he the one who pitched forever.
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121 wins after reaching 40 years old, the most of any pitcher.
odd man out wrote:
I thought he was still playing. Wasn't he the one who pitched forever.
I was at there when he was signed by Atlanta for one last game at age 48. He didn't last very long, but it was a good to give him the sendoff he deserved. Good crowd and everyone was there to see him, not a meaningless laste September game.
I've always had a fascination for some reason with the knuckleball.2,000 miler -
I cannot believe he was 81.
Feels like it was just yesterday the last time I watched him pitch.
Now I am really feeling old.“Of all sad words of tongue or pen,
the saddest are these, 'It might have been.”
John Greenleaf Whittier -
Papa Smurf said you are only as old as you think you are.
IMScotty wrote:
I cannot believe he was 81.
Feels like it was just yesterday the last time I watched him pitch.
Now I am really feeling old.
My mind keeps telling me "old" is still way down the road, but unfortunately my body often diasgrees.
The road to glory cannot be followed with much baggage.
Richard Ewell, CSA General -
Elton John playing baseball at Dodger Stadium, 1975.
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I need to buy me some Yogi's. I quote him all the time in class, second to Peter Drucker (well maybe third if you count Jesus). His quotes often sound silly at first on the surface, but usually really deep when you think about them.max.patch wrote:
For anyone who still uses something called a "stamp".
about.usps.com/newsroom/nation…ontent=link&ICID=ref_fark
The road to glory cannot be followed with much baggage.
Richard Ewell, CSA General
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