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PaulMags wrote:
WanderingStovie wrote:
Bicycling and cross-country skiing are good cardio, and build leg muscles, but not the ones you need for walking downhill with a heavy pack. Ice skating develops ankle muscles that should help when walking across rocks and roots.
You work cardio, large muscle, small muscle groups (mainly from maintaining balance), the core, endurance is built up etc.
Traditional cross-country is not quite as applicable to straight up backpacking, but helps a lot too.
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Next time it snows here I promise that I will go cross country skiing for at least 2 hours!
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OzJacko wrote:
PaulMags wrote:
WanderingStovie wrote:
Bicycling and cross-country skiing are good cardio, and build leg muscles, but not the ones you need for walking downhill with a heavy pack. Ice skating develops ankle muscles that should help when walking across rocks and roots.
Traditional cross-country is not quite as applicable to straight up backpacking, but helps a lot too.
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1). Mary Ellen's term for a heart attack in AWITW. -
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Drybones wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
Healthy people are going to feel foolish; laying in bed dying of nothing.
I Put a smiley on that comment, but I've nearly met my maker that way more than once.Dogs are excellent judges of character, this fact goes a long way toward explaining why some people don't like being around them.The post was edited 2 times, last by Sarcasmtheelf ().
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sheepdog wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
Drybones wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
Healthy people are going to feel foolish; laying in bed dying of nothing.
Dogs are excellent judges of character, this fact goes a long way toward explaining why some people don't like being around them. -
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
Drybones wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
Healthy people are going to feel foolish; laying in bed dying of nothing.
I like both but prefer ours.
In October I will be able to report Army Ant's opinion after having ours.
He may be prejudiced when I hike into a Bibbulmun hut with some as trail magic.
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There is a big difference in calorie burn cross-country skiing on groomed trails vs. breaking trail. I did both as a kid.
I kept my skis parallel, except when climbing a hill. Using a skating motion to propel yourself on skis probably works a different set of muscles.I am human and I need to be loved - just like everybody else does -
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
Drybones wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
Healthy people are going to feel foolish; laying in bed dying of nothing.
These things are better then bacon
Pork belly
Prosciutto
Shanks braised in tomato and wine
Pulled pork
Cheeks
HocksSometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
Rasty wrote:
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
Drybones wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
Healthy people are going to feel foolish; laying in bed dying of nothing.
These things are better then bacon
Pork belly
Prosciutto
Shanks braised in tomato and wine
Pulled pork
Cheeks
Hocks
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WanderingStovie wrote:
There is a big difference in calorie burn cross-country skiing on groomed trails vs. breaking trail. I did both as a kid.
I kept my skis parallel, except when climbing a hill. Using a skating motion to propel yourself on skis probably works a different set of muscles.
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sheepdog wrote:
Rasty wrote:
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
Drybones wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
Healthy people are going to feel foolish; laying in bed dying of nothing.
Pork belly
Prosciutto
Shanks braised in tomato and wine
Pulled pork
Cheeks
Hocks
Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory.
Dr. Seuss -
Mags, you ever skied Tuckermans Ravine? Quite a scene on Memorial Day weekend, if the weather cooperates.
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If the seat of your pants wears out before the legs you may have a problem.
Rasty wrote:
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
TrafficJam wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
Drybones wrote:
sheepdog wrote:
Healthy people are going to feel foolish; laying in bed dying of nothing.
These things are better then bacon
Pork belly
Prosciutto
Shanks braised in tomato and wine
Pulled pork
Cheeks
Hocks
I may grow old but I'll never grow up. -
PaulMags wrote:
WanderingStovie wrote:
There is a big difference in calorie burn cross-country skiing on groomed trails vs. breaking trail. I did both as a kid.
I kept my skis parallel, except when climbing a hill. Using a skating motion to propel yourself on skis probably works a different set of muscles.
[IMG:http://pmags.com/gallery2/d/23023-1/image011.jpg]
I am human and I need to be loved - just like everybody else does -
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It might be if you start at 14k .
I have never been that high (except in an airplane). I have been to Breckenridge, CO, but that involved downhill skis and chairlifts. The highest point in Wisconsin is less than 2k. 1200 feet was a big hill where I grew up.I am human and I need to be loved - just like everybody else doesThe post was edited 1 time, last by WanderingStovie ().
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WanderingStovie wrote:
It might be if you start at 14k .
I have never been that high (except in an airplane). I have been to Breckenridge, CO, but that involved downhill skis and chairlifts. The highest point in Wisconsin is less than 2k. 1200 feet was a big hill where I grew up.
The road to glory cannot be followed with much baggage.
Richard Ewell, CSA General -
steinhatchee falls. the widest falls in florida. thats a cute waterfall.
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falling waters state park. the tallest (70 ft) waterfall in florida. best to see after it rains.
[IMG:https://www.floridastateparks.org/sites/default/files/styles/slider_large/public/Division%20of%20Recreation%20and%20Parks/gallery/Waterfall%20Viewing%20From%20Lower%20Deck.jpg?itok=AUNrr5Mq]2,000 miler -
PaulMags wrote:
If you want to call skiing to 13k ft easy, then sure.
Dogs are excellent judges of character, this fact goes a long way toward explaining why some people don't like being around them. -
Astro wrote:
WanderingStovie wrote:
It might be if you start at 14k .
I have never been that high (except in an airplane). I have been to Breckenridge, CO, but that involved downhill skis and chairlifts. The highest point in Wisconsin is less than 2k. 1200 feet was a big hill where I grew up.
I also took a bicycle up Mount Washington. I probably walked my bicycle up at least part of that trip. It was a pleasant day, all the way up to the top and back down. See visitpa.com/pa-scenic-byways-a…mount-washington-overlookI am human and I need to be loved - just like everybody else doesThe post was edited 1 time, last by WanderingStovie ().
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If you've lived at sea level most of your life, doing anything at all at 13,000 feet will have you seeing stars.
My first (only?) experience of that sort of vertical-change was driving from Hilo to the top of Mauna Kea in a rental car. The car barely made it to the top. Carb was adjusted for seal level, natch. When I stepped outside at the summit to wander about, I was amazed how hard it was to just breathe properly. -
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max.patch wrote:
the closest ski resort to me is cloudmont in alabama. 1,800 elevation. state of the art rope tow. does that count?
The road to glory cannot be followed with much baggage.
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PaulMags wrote:
Nope. I did not ski until I came out here. Suspect Tucks is well above my ski level, too....at least the upper part of it.
OTOH, looks to be way too many people for my taste.
Lest we forget.....
SSgt Ray Rangel - USAF
SrA Elizabeth Loncki - USAF
PFC Adam Harris - USA
MSgt Eden Pearl - USMC -
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1110 feet of elevation change - the largest in Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. I skied there once.I am human and I need to be loved - just like everybody else does -
Astro wrote:
max.patch wrote:
the closest ski resort to me is cloudmont in alabama. 1,800 elevation. state of the art rope tow. does that count?
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rafe wrote:
If you've lived at sea level most of your life, doing anything at all at 13,000 feet will have you seeing stars.
My first (only?) experience of that sort of vertical-change was driving from Hilo to the top of Mauna Kea in a rental car. The car barely made it to the top. Carb was adjusted for seal level, natch. When I stepped outside at the summit to wander about, I was amazed how hard it was to just breathe properly.
Lest we forget.....
SSgt Ray Rangel - USAF
SrA Elizabeth Loncki - USAF
PFC Adam Harris - USA
MSgt Eden Pearl - USMC -
I live at either 34' or 67' above sea level depending on what device I check.
If I am above 4500'-5000' I can tell you without looking at an altimeter, as I begin to notice a change in my cardio performance. Somewhere around 7000'-8000' trails begin kicking my arse a bit.
Highest I've ever done serious hiking was just around 9000' to the top of Mt. Olympus and it was rough. Of course there were a couple of ultra runners who jogged past me as summiting the mountain was their saturday morning run.
Dogs are excellent judges of character, this fact goes a long way toward explaining why some people don't like being around them. -
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rafe wrote:
If you've lived at sea level most of your life, doing anything at all at 13,000 feet will have you seeing stars.
My first (only?) experience of that sort of vertical-change was driving from Hilo to the top of Mauna Kea in a rental car. The car barely made it to the top. Carb was adjusted for seal level, natch. When I stepped outside at the summit to wander about, I was amazed how hard it was to just breathe properly.
Needless to say, I wound up in an ER. I haven't hiked that high, since. I'd like to try hiking in the West, someday, but with very careful acclimation.
Hey, that's my altimeter! (Did you get it because you saw mine?)
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Eagle Mountain summit by Kevin Kenny, on FlickrI'm not lost. I know where I am. I'm right here. -
The highest I've been, not on an airplane, is on Mt. Lassen Volcanic Park all the ay up to the topmost lake. I think it is about 10k feet above sea level. I did notice I had to take it easy when I walked from the car to the lake. I've also been to Albaquerque, New Mexico. Same result, except no lake.--
"What do you mean its sunrise already ?!", me. -
AnotherKevin wrote:
rafe wrote:
If you've lived at sea level most of your life, doing anything at all at 13,000 feet will have you seeing stars.
My first (only?) experience of that sort of vertical-change was driving from Hilo to the top of Mauna Kea in a rental car. The car barely made it to the top. Carb was adjusted for seal level, natch. When I stepped outside at the summit to wander about, I was amazed how hard it was to just breathe properly.
Needless to say, I wound up in an ER. I haven't hiked that high, since. I'd like to try hiking in the West, someday, but with very careful acclimation.
Hey, that's my altimeter! (Did you get it because you saw mine?)
Eagle Mountain summit by Kevin Kenny, on Flickr
Dogs are excellent judges of character, this fact goes a long way toward explaining why some people don't like being around them. -
max.patch wrote:
Astro wrote:
max.patch wrote:
the closest ski resort to me is cloudmont in alabama. 1,800 elevation. state of the art rope tow. does that count?
The road to glory cannot be followed with much baggage.
Richard Ewell, CSA General -
SarcasmTheElf wrote:
I most certainly purchased it because I liked yours. Did I manage to pick the exact same model? Amazon had a couple of dozen very similar watches to choose from I'm surprised I got it right.
I'm not lost. I know where I am. I'm right here. -
Drybones wrote:
If the seat of your pants wears out before the legs you may have a problem.
Dogs are excellent judges of character, this fact goes a long way toward explaining why some people don't like being around them. -
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I can't imagine that would help with cardio much.
When I was in CO last time, it was my fascination with the breweries that screwed up my ability to acclimate to the altitude. Everyone said to avoid alcohol when I was staying in Golden for a week, like that was going to happen. That said, it was kinda worth it.Dogs are excellent judges of character, this fact goes a long way toward explaining why some people don't like being around them. -
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