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  • Sleeping Bag

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    Quote from jimmyjam: “I've tried the foam pad on top and under my inflatable, and for me it's definitely warmer and feels better with the foam pad on top. However sometimes I bring the foam along in the summer and I'll put it under the inflatable because it will keep it from sliding around. ” It has something to do with warm air getting trapped in the cells of the CCF pad or something like that. And the warmth gets lost to the ground at a slower rate with the CCF in the middle. But it sounds lik…

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    Quote from CoachLou: “I got it cheap with a strange coffin shaped pad, from a hunter who never used it. The pad has to weigh 2 lbs. and it rolls up to the size and shape of a violin case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ” My Roxy Ann will still be a favorite for mid temps. I really do love it. But, if I could afford it, I’d upgrade the RA to a summerlite or megalite.

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    Quote from LIhikers: “Quote from Astro: “I believe Paul in Coach Lou's post is the male side of LIHikers. ” Yep, and I wish my Western Mountaineering Puma had only been $600.I've never been cold in the thing, not even in single digit temperatures. Once the money is spent you just have to forget about it or it will make you crazy. Now TJ, what kind of pad do you plan on using for cold weather camping? ” For now, a thermarest prolite plus coupled with a thermarest z lite sol. It gives me an R of 6…

  • Sleeping Bag

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    I’m second guessing myself, maybe I should call before it gets shipped and change it to a Versalite(?)

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    Double ‘Oh my’. Like, seriously. $600? Jesus, I’m having palpitations. I think it’s time to review my latest bourbon choice...Hillbilly Bourbon. I needed it tonight.

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    Quote from CoachLou: “14 years ago my Puma was a little more than that. Paul paid a lot more recently! You have helped me decide on a replacement for my Lost Ranger, which I’ve had one good nite sleep in. I just have to scrape up the 550 for the Alpinlite! ” What bag are you considering? Paul, as in Paul Mags? Holy shyte, I still can’t believe I bought a $600 sleeping bag. WTF! I’m definitely ready for the zombie apocalypse. Oh my, oh......my.

  • Sleeping Bag

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    The Lost Ranger and Roxy Ann are great bags but they should have been marketed as 30*, not 15*. Mine has been great in higher altitude summer and spring temps. The sleeve is fantastic, my bag stays put even with my tossing and turning. But it’s time to push some boundaries.

  • Sleeping Bag

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    Yeah, when I’m working my 70 hrs this week, I will keep thinking about my $600 sleeping bag!

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    Holy crap, I just paid $600 for a sleeping bag. It better last the rest of my life. I got the 5* Antelope with overfill. If it’s good enough for Sandy...

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    Quote from IMScotty: “You also asked about the width of a bag and I will say for myself, I always appreciate some extra girth. I want enough so that I can still roll around inside and get comfortable, even though it means I will have to heat that extra space. Keep in mind that when winter camping you might be wearing some clothing and a puffy jacket to bed also, and will be glad to have that extra space. I need it anyway. ” For some reason, I don’t toss and turn as much as I used to and can slee…

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    Quote from SandyofPA: “I have the Western Mountaineering Antelope, as a side sleeper the width allows me to pull my knees up to stay real warm. I pair it with an X-Therm. ” Good point, I sleep the same...on my side with knees up. I worried the extra space would make me feel colder. Sandy, for what temp range do you use the Antelope? I’d like to use it up to 30’s, at least.

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    Quote from Astro: “Never bought anything lower than 20*, and no expert at cold weather bags. But FWIW I have been happy with my Western Mountaineering HiLite. WM has quality gear, the only down side is the price, and unlike some other gear, you seldom see any on sale. Bottom line, gear to keep you warm in cold weather is usually a good investment, as it extends your hiking seasons and helps you enjoy it more. ” I was sort of scared away from the extremelite bags as I read the fabric doesn’t take…

  • Sleeping Bag

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    Sooooo....the 15* Apache with overfill sounds like the best decision to me. I don’t believe the overfill will add 8-10*, so I’ll go with 5*. That would give me some leeway if the shyte hits the fan. Hey! Thanks for helping me work all this out.

  • Sleeping Bag

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    But the thing that sucks about using the two bags mentioned above, is their weight and the space they will occupy in my pack.

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    One option other than buying a new bag is to layer two bags. Two bags might be the same warmth as the Apache. Here’s my convoluted thinking and sketchy math. My DIY Apex Climashield quilt is rated at 30* so I’ll add 10 to that for sleeping cold. The Roxy Ann 15* bag is more realistically 30*. 70-[(70-40)+(70-30)] = 0* Not sure I believe it so will add 10* and go with the more realistic number of 15*.

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    In cooler temps, I sleep on my Prolite Plus short and Z lite sol. The Prolite Plus, r value is 3.4, the Z lite sol is 2.6, giving me a toasty 6. Knock off a bit sleeping cold and 5.5 should be adequate.

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    I’m in the market for a cold-weather bag...Southeast cold. I want a down bag able to tolerate humidity. Realistically, the coldest I’d probably camp is 12-15* but need to be prepared to go down to 0-5*, just in case my planning sucks, which is usually the case. I’ve read that the recommendation is to get a bag 15-20* colder than what you need. Plus I’m a ‘cold sleeper’. I’m looking at a Western Mountaineering Apache, 15* with 2oz of overfill which supposedly adds 8-10* to the bag. A Feathered Fr…

  • welcome to the cafe

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    Quote from LIhikers: “Quote from Astro: “Quote from odd man out: “Out of 129 suggestions, the hiking club may be the only good one. But what about the other cover articles. Maybe I want to know if sex manuals hurt marriages. ” Might find out you have been doing it all wrong. ” There's a wrong way ” It’s all good.

  • Other Hobbies and Interests

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    Quote from LIhikers: “Quote from Traffic Jam: “Talkin about sexy cars... After I bought my new Crosstrek, I noticed people were constantly looking at me, like doing double takes. I thought, damn, I must look good! Until someone rolled their window down at a red light and told me they loved the color of my car. ” It's the first, I'm sure.Nobody cares about the color of a car that much. What color is it? ” Thanks! But It’s the car. I’ve only seen one of that color in Knoxville. appalachiantrailcaf…

  • Other Hobbies and Interests

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    Talkin about sexy cars... After I bought my new Crosstrek, I noticed people were constantly looking at me, like doing double takes. I thought, damn, I must look good! Until someone rolled their window down at a red light and told me they loved the color of my car.