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I have one, good as a water boiler. Does not work well with larger pots. Essentially the same niche as an alcohol stove but using canisters instead.

hey...me too... pmags.com/ultra-light-but-not-ultra-precise

"There's something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym" Bill Nye

Quote from JimBlue: “ ” Unfortunately, depression did run in the Lewis family. I've read the evidence, about he murder, too. Fascinating. (Good summary as any: smithsonianmag.com/history/mer…s-death-144006713/?no-ist) I, frankly, don't know enough to say one way or another. But deep depression for a person who was ON only when there was adventure going is a sad tale that is common. Shackleton also suffered from depression and aimlessness when on not a journey for example. On a side note, the HBO…

Yet they are approved for use with grizzly bears in Denali. Go figure.

I am leery of anyone calling themselves an expert. Experienced? Knowledgeable? Good instructor? Sure... Expert? Sounds like some internet wankery. Also, if allowed, I think Ursacks are a superior solution to bear canisters IMO. 7 oz, more pliable, takes up less space and recognized as effective by the IGBC. No need to hang either. Just tie off to a stout branch *AWAY* from the campsite.

I am off to NH this summer for a few days before meeting my new niece. For opposite reasons, I'll probably bring an alcohol stove. Easier to fly with, too.

so this advisory is strictly oral and not written down yet? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, just trying to sort it out. And is it a Bear Resistant Food Container they are suggesting or a bear canister specifically? (Denali NP, for example, calls them BRFC and lets you use an Urscak OR a canister)

Quote from WanderingStovie: “Quote: “ ” How is a canister stove not an open flame stove? ” An UL recognized on and off valve...a controllable flame At least out West, a stove without this type of valve is coming under increased scrutiny. From Oct 2015...rather blunt: fs.usda.gov/detail/okawen/alerts-notices/?cid=fsbdev3_053600 Non-approved Fires -snip- - Alcohol ultralight stoves (these tend to be homemade from aluminum or tin cans and burn rubbing alcohol)

It is for boil and cook type meals with a smallish pot. Not the most fuel efficient verus other canister stoves..but neither is an alcohol stove. I used it a fair amount all last summer and fall. pmags.com/alcohol-stove-alternative-hornet-brs-3000t

A bear canister is only required if you are camping between Jarrod Gap and Neels Gap. If you are just passing through, no canister needed. This is a five mile stretch, so I think it is a non-issue for most. Unless I am missing something, I don't see where the ATC is suggesting bear canister should be used in general?

I seem to recall you, your now wife and myself enjoying some fine craft beer. Southern Sun beer is totally worth it.

It is very easy to get high in Colorado... Just saying.

If you want to call skiing to 13k ft easy, then sure.

Nope. I did not ski until I came out here. Suspect Tucks is well above my ski level, too....at least the upper part of it. OTOH, looks to be way too many people for my taste.

Quote from WanderingStovie: “There is a big difference in calorie burn cross-country skiing on groomed trails vs. breaking trail. I did both as a kid. I kept my skis parallel, except when climbing a hill. Using a skating motion to propel yourself on skis probably works a different set of muscles. ” That's why I mentioned backcountry skiing... image011.jpg

Quote from WanderingStovie: “Bicycling and cross-country skiing are good cardio, and build leg muscles, but not the ones you need for walking downhill with a heavy pack. Ice skating develops ankle muscles that should help when walking across rocks and roots. ” Actually, backcountry skiing is quite possibly the best possible outdoor exercise you can do..exp when skiing as a form of transportation for winter backpacking as opposed to very light day outings. When I have a full winter of ski touring…

Quote from socks: “yeah I liked gym at the end of the day too, I'd skip it and get a jump on the 420 bus at 3:15 ” Badabump..TISH! Dad was old school when it came to work over academics..but that's another story in itself. In any case, once we were in high school, an after school job was expected. Once we had a driver's licence, we were really expected to work after our classes. Gym made for a nice break between school and washing dishes after classes.

I enjoyed gym class if it was the end of the day. Nice way to decompress. High school was neither bad nor good for me. Just something to get by and put my hours in to get to stuff I care about. Kinda like my day job.. In any case, when I was unemployed a few years ago, I hit the weights and worked out hard. I looked good (all things considered). Don't know how much it helped with my endurance, though. What really helped my endurance? The constant backcountry ski touring (Nordic and Tele) , hikin…

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